**** Original Starcraft 2 Thread ****

Deific said:
Fact of the matter is, if it didn't have starcraft in the title - people would be saying it's too expensive, or probably wouldn't even be interested. The argument that it's worth it because SC1 gave you so much entertainment doesn't hold up either because none of the developers who worked on SC1 have worked on SC2, it's an entirely different team. So really it's a different team working on a different game which happens to be in the starcraft universe.

If it were the exact same game with warhammer in the title, and warhammer skins then all this hype wouldn't exist. It's like designer clothing, only a designer game. You're paying for the name and many (not all but many) players wouldn't be buying it if it didn't have that name.
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Except the game is a lot like SC1, except with different mechanics. It's still the same extremely balanced and competitive game that is going to last many years until Starcraft 3 comes out. Believe me, it's going to be a huge esport and is already more competitive than most games. How many other games have $5000 tournaments for a beta?
 
To be honest, I'm waiting until I hear a little more about the SP campaign before I get it, and I'm certainly not going to be playing the full price of £45. Much as I loved MP in the Beta realistically most of my gameplay time will be spent in the SP/Story mode simply because I'm just not that good, and as polished as the gameplay demo's look I won't be up for only 10-15 hours of content.

Plus, there's the whole issue of server stability. Definitely don't expect much uninterrupted gameplay in that first week.
 
Deific said:
If it were the exact same game with warhammer in the title, and warhammer skins then all this hype wouldn't exist. It's like designer clothing, only a designer game. You're paying for the name and many (not all but many) players wouldn't be buying it if it didn't have that name.
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I disagree. I wouldn't buy designer if the quality was crap. A premium product, such as SC2 is just that, premium. The look, the gameplay, the presentation, the support and the community. And of course its longevity. And yes the subject has to engage me. Not interested in Warhammer so you're right, they could pump the best game out in the world and chance are I wouldn't bother as not interested in the material.

On the above note yes I do buy some designer stuff, but if say a t-shirt lasts 2 months I won't buy it again, regardless of the name or how popular it is.

Maybe it's just me though and these are but my humble opinions. I think if paying £34.99 means they continue to pump out good games I will continue to spend that. What's the alternative if they can't make a healthy profit...no games :(

Reminds me of an old saying, you buy cheap you buy twice!
 
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Deific said:
Fact of the matter is, if it didn't have starcraft in the title - people would be saying it's too expensive, or probably wouldn't even be interested. The argument that it's worth it because SC1 gave you so much entertainment doesn't hold up either because none of the developers who worked on SC1 have worked on SC2, it's an entirely different team. So really it's a different team working on a different game which happens to be in the starcraft universe.

If it were the exact same game with warhammer in the title, and warhammer skins then all this hype wouldn't exist. It's like designer clothing, only a designer game. You're paying for the name and many (not all but many) players wouldn't be buying it if it didn't have that name.
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I think we've got off lightly if these uber fashionable top end designer games are only £10 more.

Plus there are people saying £35 is too much for a PC game, you're just highlighting SC fans, who would give their left nut for it, so a mild price hike doesn't seem so bad to them.

Then there is the fact that few high quality RTS games come out and the ones that do of late tend to not be based around intensive macro economies and worker farms, which don't really go in anyway to make the game more friendly to low skill players who steer clear of online play still. So what you're left with is a gimmick that takes away from the high skill players and makes the games boring to watch with so little going on.

So a high quality RTS game staying to true to the old school format is going to get <3 from the fans of the genre with or without the label.
 
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Hedge said:
Why should console games demand a higher price when pc games normally have more support and options?
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because console developers have to pay royalty fees to microsoft sony and nintendo. this is not the case with pc games and cheaper games has always been one of the biggest advantanges of pc gaming.
 
svs22 said:
because console developers have to pay royalty fees to microsoft sony and nintendo. this is not the case with pc games and cheaper games has always been one of the biggest advantanges of pc gaming.
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I remember paying £34.99 for Alien Storm for Amiga!

£35 for a game that has already given me at least 40 hours of play time - probably more than any other game I have ever owned, is a bargain.

It will be very well supported as there has already been many patches and a huge community. Bnet 2 is not perfect at the moment but im sure after another year or so it will have more features and be a lot more stable, especially after they have taken all the profits. LAN play if feel, will be available too. If its not created officially then someone will create someone sort of LAN mod, just like AI was created by fans who did not make it into the first stage of the beta

I can also sense that there will be a Starcraft movie sometime in the near future, this should generate a lot more profits and give a lot of good publicity (if done correctly) Maybe it will be a bad idea though, who knows. All I do know is the Starcraft preview adverts look great, maybe if James Cameron directed it :D

Either way, I am looking forward to picking it up on tuesday in town and getting back to my warped in DTs and Void Rays :)
 
Spektor said:
I think we've got off lightly if these uber fashionable top end designer games are only £10 more.

Plus there are people saying £35 is too much for a PC game, you're just highlighting SC fans, who would give their left nut for it, so a mild price hike doesn't seem so bad to them.

Then there is the fact that few high quality RTS games come out and the ones that do of late tend to not be based around intensive macro economies and worker farms, which don't really go in anyway to make the game more friendly to low skill players who steer clear of online play still. So what you're left with is a gimmick that takes away from the high skill players and makes the games boring to watch with so little going on.

So a high quality RTS game staying to true to the old school format is going to get <3 from the fans of the genre with or without the label.
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This.

The effort to keep it competitive is pretty comforting, in the past 5 months of beta its had 18 patches for multiplayer balance. I'd have no problem paying £35 or more for PC games if they were of this kind of quality.
 
Well, regarding ppl complaining about prices.
Anyone remembers pentium 1 times when there was no piracy just yet and the games still costed on avarage 50-100gbp??
 
PhoenixUK said:
Well, regarding ppl complaining about prices.
Anyone remembers pentium 1 times when there was no piracy just yet and the games still costed on avarage 50-100gbp??
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1993 Pentium, 1995 Pentium pro. I never remember games costing £50 - £100. Please name me a game that cost more than £75.

I'm not complaining about the cost of SC2 because it is such a good game. However I have never seen a game that costs £100. Ever

edit - excluding rare neo-geo type stuff and old nes games like seen in the link below.

http://www.gamesniped.com/2007/11/08/worlds-most-expensive-video-games/
 
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Kreeeee said:
If I buy this in Switzerland will I have any problems with it back in the UK?
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You must be the most excited person in the world over this game. You used to go nuts for the first one. I remember teasing you about it, i thought you was gonna try and find out where i live and kill me.

Would love to play some rounds against you bud.
 
I don't remember any if that. I completely forgot this was coming out as I have moved onto competitive fighting games.

Played about 2 weeks of the beta and this should be good fun, but with fighting games and a life now I'll never be competitive at this.
 
Guest2 said:
1993 Pentium, 1995 Pentium pro. I never remember games costing £50 - £100. Please name me a game that cost more than £75.

I'm not complaining about the cost of SC2 because it is such a good game. However I have never seen a game that costs £100. Ever

edit - excluding rare neo-geo type stuff and old nes games like seen in the link below.

http://www.gamesniped.com/2007/11/08/worlds-most-expensive-video-games/
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Ah well, I forgot to say that I wasn't buying games in the UK at that time and pound was a lot stronger than it is now so probably in the 40-60 area, that would be right but if you consider the exchange rate to not only dollar but other currencies from that time, you could clearly say it was about as much as around 100 is now.

Anyways, 34.99 for a title that comes out once every 10yrs or so, isn't much tbh.
 
But the next two "expansions" will be coming out a lot sooner than 10 years. You will have to buy them or you will be stuck playing other people who only have Wings of Liberty.
 
mart981 said:
But the next two "expansions" will be coming out a lot sooner than 10 years. You will have to buy them or you will be stuck playing other people who only have Wings of Liberty.
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Are they actually doing that? I thought they said it wouldn't bring new units for MP like broodwar did. Just SP stuff.
 
Thought this the best place to ask..

I quite like the base building in Supreme Commander, is there anything similar in SC2, ive never played the original..
 
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