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AMD Gamers First manifesto

It all seems a lot like marketing bluster to us from a company which has often been seen as a cut-price also-ran in the video card market.
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The cheek :mad: so I guess they prefer overpriced GFX cards which provide similar performance to ATI's less expensive parts...:o
 
I did read some where, that AMD are going to start investing more money with game developers to start developing and testing games on the Radeons, as Nvidia do with thier TWIMTBP campaign.

I think thats the way to go!
 
Different this time, they have major momentum with their DX 11 cards success, they have already endorsed more games in the past year than they have done in the past five years, look out for Crysis 2 endorsed by ATI...;)
 
No a driver slipped out that allowed a nvidia card to process physx even in the presence of a non nvidia graphics card.
 
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Always take this 'momentus' announcements with a large pinch of salt, no matter what company they come from.

ATI are firmly focused on Microsoft API's before anything else. Their Linux support has always been a joke, and their OpenGL drivers still leave a lot to be desired. Just think about it for a second, why are they even talking about pushing OpenGL for gamers? Because of the countless AAA OpenGL PC games that don't come out every year?

It's marketing. Calling yourself an 'open standards' company sounds good and consumer friendly. Don't forget that Nvidia fully support OpenCL, as well as having excellent OpenGL drivers and Linux support. CUDA is a proprietary API in the sense that it's not fully open source, but it is fully documented and you can even write CUDA drivers for your own hardware without paying Nvidia a single penny.

'Open standards' are great and all, but being open doesn't make them the best option. What happens if DirectCompute completely destroys OpenCL in the consumer space, like Direct3D has done to OpenGL...?

EDIT: Hmm my post was a semi-response to Opeth, but that post is now deleted, that'll teach me for a taking a cigarette break mid-post :)
 
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EDIT: Hmm my post was a semi-response to Opeth, but that post is now deleted, that'll teach me for a taking a cigarette break mid-post :)
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It still applies to the OP... kinda ironic that poor ATI support for OpenGL has been one of the reasons many developers have moved away from OpenGL and now ATI (for about the 3rd time I can remember) make a big deal about embracing it... as I said last time and you noted in your post - its purely politics and like last time nothing will come of it.
 
ATI linux drivers have been inprove still with that said Nvidia driver are a lot better for linux/openCL/GL so they still have a lot of work to do...


kinda sucks really as I have ATI cards so I gotta play around a bit...but iwth that said thats why I want a laptop with a Nv GPU
 
p0rks0da said:
Always take this 'momentus' announcements with a large pinch of salt, no matter what company they come from.

ATI are firmly focused on Microsoft API's before anything else. Their Linux support has always been a joke, and their OpenGL drivers still leave a lot to be desired. Just think about it for a second, why are they even talking about pushing OpenGL for gamers? Because of the countless AAA OpenGL PC games that don't come out every year?

It's marketing. Calling yourself an 'open standards' company sounds good and consumer friendly. Don't forget that Nvidia fully support OpenCL, as well as having excellent OpenGL drivers and Linux support. CUDA is a proprietary API in the sense that it's not fully open source, but it is fully documented and you can even write CUDA drivers for your own hardware without paying Nvidia a single penny.

'Open standards' are great and all, but being open doesn't make them the best option. What happens if DirectCompute completely destroys OpenCL in the consumer space, like Direct3D has done to OpenGL...?

EDIT: Hmm my post was a semi-response to Opeth, but that post is now deleted, that'll teach me for a taking a cigarette break mid-post :)
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I deleted the post, becuase, I didnt want to start up an controversy, etc etc etc, keep things civil.
 
If they simply asked devs to put a TWIMTBP-style logo .bik in the opening reel of games that'd probably be enough to convince most people. :D

This is really just a PR war against PhysX/CUDA though, kinda sucks that they can't just have a meeting and work out an agreement on standards.
 
Good stuff. Hopefully they now have the cash to make some real technology breakthroughs and PC gaming can lead the way again.
 
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