GIRL POWAH!!!
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They're honestly stating that they're annoying and think they're superior to men. That's better than being like that and hiding it - you know straight away that they're not worth paying any attention to.
Any feminist who actually only wants equal opportunity for all is (a) conned and (b) doomed to disappointment. I have known a few of them. Well, two. One that I'm sure of.
Feminism is innately sexist - it's a biological group advocacy ideology, so it can't possibly be about equality between that group and everyone else. Trying to use it as a tool for sexual equality is like trying to stop a wound bleeding with a machete. Even if you really want to, even if you really try, it's not going to work. It's not just the wrong tool for the job, it's the opposite of the right tool for the job.
Feminism still has to be feminism, or else it isn't feminism. Obvious, really. There are huge differences between different strains of feminism, but they all share the basics of being feminism. Which means that the post you're replying to is right for all of them - feminism must be about female people first (extremely moderate) or only (mainstream and radical), or else it isn't feminism.
Name me any feminist anything that's about people equally regardless of their sex.
Even the most extremely moderate strain of feminism, a strain so moderate that they are diametrically opposed to mainstream feminism on most things and mainstream feminists don't regard it as being feminism at all, is very explcitly about female people only. It says so right in the FAQ of their website.
I didn't read the whole thread, because it made me sick reading it... but I seriously hope there's more than 2% neutral posts, at least. Such rubbish from you guys... What makes you better than any quote that was mentioned here, huh?
Not meaning it comes to mind. The line you quoted was so utterly over the top that it's hardly believable that it was meant seriously.
Why? She's not saying that women are better than men. Her statement is egalitarian. I'd use it myself, although I wouldn't put it in every email I sent. Your reply would just make you look like a sexist idiot.
Its all a load of dribble. Worst thing is I've seen a few guys using things like that, but not on bookface as i don't use it.
I don't understand things like this either...
''It aint about how hard you hit , its about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.''
Why would you put that as your status?
I don't understand things like this either...
''It aint about how hard you hit , its about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.''
Why would you put that as your status?
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I work with 3 feminists at work, and some of the crap they come out of makes most of the men's blood boil. They've even started some STOKE FEMINIST group on facebook.
One for instance started part time 19 months ago and has been trying to get a full time contract for the last year. She keeps bitching that it's because she is female (60% of the staff are female and even our manager is). She fails to see that its because she is late for about 40% of her shifts.
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http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=762925392&ref=ts#!/group.php?gid=116096331771132
One for instance started part time 19 months ago and has been trying to get a full time contract for the last year. She keeps bitching that it's because she is female (60% of the staff are female and even our manager is). She fails to see that its because she is late for about 40% of her shifts.
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http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=762925392&ref=ts#!/group.php?gid=116096331771132
I think part of it is that she looks like she's assuming the people who are reading it have to be told that.
I have loads of girls on my Facebook with the "Marilyn Monroe" quote ¬_¬'
Hmm. I think as was said above, you're thinking of the radical ones.
Mnnnhhhhh.
In MY opinion, OPPORTUNITY needs to be open to all. I believe we now live in a world (well, the Western world) where a woman who wants to go on to great things, can. So I feel we're pretty much there.
My biggest bugbear now in the UK is parental(/maternity) leave. Why on Earth is 9 months or so given over to the mother, and only 2 weeks to the father?
If (IF), women of childbearing age are looked over for promotions, it is because of this. If, both the father or mother could equally naff off for a number of months, this possible inequality has disappeared.
I am in no doubt that still, a majority of women will take more of the time off (as it is in Sweden now) - but the point is that the choice and opportunity is available.
This is rather than forcing a load of red tape in around women who go away to have a child, and then the company has to bend over backwards to keep a space for her and let her back in up to a year later.
I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand why I should have doors closed to me, because I am female?
I agree with your paternity leave for fathers Sara, I think. A high earning, career driven mother might want/need to go back to work after a few weeks and the father might be the designated child carer.
There is effectively no room for that at the moment (as I understand it) where the father gets the same rights if he was the mother.
Either way, sometimes it seems to me that the hardcore feminists want their cake and to eat it too.
There is effectively no room for that at the moment (as I understand it) where the father gets the same rights if he was the mother.
Either way, sometimes it seems to me that the hardcore feminists want their cake and to eat it too.
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I could be misinterpreting but I don't think Angillion is of the opinion that you should have any doors closed to you based on your gender, if I'm understanding correctly what he does take issue with is the idea that a feminist is for equal rights for all (or if they are then they are suffering from a delusion is the general point).
Broadly speaking the argument would be if you're a feminist then your position is that females should have greater rights than they do now (often over and above what is extended to males) whereas if what you want is absolutely equal rights without any discrimination about the gender you are proposing a case for you'd be an egalitarian (or some other more suitable term if there should be one).
Hmm. I suppose so.
I think in the past, the campaign has been clearly a case for the women to fight, as they were quite obviously the oppressed ones.
As the fight has continued and opportunities for women has slowly plateaued up to the mark where men are - I suppose it no longer needs the 'fem' prefix. I'm an inist. Or an egalitarian, as you so rightly put it
Specifically I suppose I am a gender-egalitarian, in this case. As well as age- race- and disability-egalitarian.
Back the the parental leave thing - it really drives me mad - more and more red tape has been thrown at trying to make sure women are accepted back into work after a long leave, which has only made them less and less desirable to employ. Duh.
Brilliant.