Home Plugs - Are They Really Practical ?

Ehh, you dont have too.... under the floor, under the skirting boards if room, 10mm hole in the wall and run it external, you should only ever "need" to chase the wall for newly added light switches and wall mounted TV's.

Be warned mate, HomePlugs will = FAIL unless you live in a new build with decent leccie cables.

No way am I lifting fitted carpets and laminate floors or drilling more holes in the house exterior walls -- home boys or nowt and if it fails so what, all I have not got is iPlayer on a couple of tellys.



Rgds
Binty
 
...From replies above, the setup should certainly cope with the BBC SD programming via internet iPlayer, however, will it be OK for HD programming via internet iPlayer?...

Yes, the fact that you're watching iPlayer HD rather than SD doesn't matter, as ultimately it's being fed by the internet which is slower than your homeplugs can cope with. To put it another way, if playback stutters the internet speed is more likely the problem than the homeplugs. When you hear about people having issues with video streaming they are usually referring to high-bandwidth streaming from recordings within the LAN e.g. movie rips on a NAS.
 
The use that I am thinking about is for streaming programming from BBC iPlayer via the Freesat receiver inside my TV. I need a LAN cable connected to the TV for this and the home plug option close to the TV seems ideal.

I use a BT Home Hub 2 for internet, has anyone any feedback using home plugs with this modem/router?


Rgds
Binty

I have the same router as you, and we have three Comtrend pass-through plugs (does not hog the socket) working, one master at the Homehub and two others in different rooms. It works well enough - I watch iPlayer SD which works fine (my internet connection can't take HD) so I imagine your freesat box will be fine.
 
BTW The rated speeds on the 200Mbits are half duplex and they only come with 100 Mbit ethernet ports.

So the maximum you can get on the 200 Mbits is around 80 Mbits ! (20% Loss due to signalling.)

Same rule applys to the 85 mbits i.e. 1/2 + 20% additional loss.
 
I have a set of 200M home plugs , they make VERY nice paperweights
Not so good at keeping a network connection at a decent speed
The speeds would vary a lot so I gave up using them :(
 
I have the same router as you, and we have three Comtrend pass-through plugs (does not hog the socket) working, one master at the Homehub and two others in different rooms. It works well enough - I watch iPlayer SD which works fine (my internet connection can't take HD) so I imagine your freesat box will be fine.

Monkey,

Thx for the info about using the same router.


To move on to another point, are all these home plugs of equal ability at distributing broadband subject to their rating, ie, 85mbps, 200mbps, 1000mbps or are some manufacturers models considered superior.

There seems to be quite a variance in price with Comtrend and Belkin being cheap compared to NetGear.


Rgds
Binty
 
I've used homeplugs for years now, early 70s wiring worked fine, new build worked fine. Easily quick enough for streaming 1080p video.
 
BTW The rated speeds on the 200Mbits are half duplex and they only come with 100 Mbit ethernet ports.

So the maximum you can get on the 200 Mbits is around 80 Mbits ! (20% Loss due to signalling.)

Same rule applys to the 85 mbits i.e. 1/2 + 20% additional loss.



I always get confused with these speeds with reference to my ISP quoted broadband speed. If I am getting approx 6.8mb broadband from a quoted maximum of 8mb then I assume that these home plugs are more than capable even accounting for halving the home plug rating then deducting a further 20% ?


Rgds
Binty
 
+1 that they are fine for any kind of streaming. YMMV, but I get 20mbit out of 200mbit plugs, which is plenty for 1080p :)

They will just **** you off if you want to move big files around, though :/
 
netgear, belkin and ost of the big names have not supported powerline/homeplugs well or consitently (they change chipsets a lot for a start), cant mention compettitors but there are excellent plug throuhg units avilable and some of the generic manufacoturers have constiently made and supported products for example zyxcel.

seperatley tdont understnd if the OP is streaming freesat from a tv over land or streaming to the tv from the internet, can iplayer stream either way?
 
tdont understnd if the OP is streaming freesat from a tv over land or streaming to the tv from the internet, can iplayer stream either way?

The idea is to stream iPlayer via a Freesat transmission from satellite by a direct connection between the satellite dish and the TV. The LAN port on the TV needs to be connected for this service even though the iPlayer pictures are coming into the TV via satellite.

Rgds
Binty
 
netgear, belkin and ost of the big names have not supported powerline/homeplugs well or consitently (they change chipsets a lot for a start), cant mention compettitors but there are excellent plug throuhg units avilable and some of the generic manufacoturers have constiently made and supported products for example zyxcel.

Do I read this as Zyxcel are good for Powerline products whereas most of the big names are inconsistent with product design and support?


Rgds
Binty
 
Using 3 200 mbps homeplugs here with a Zyxcel router. No problems streaming movies from my computer to the downstairs TV via the PS3. I would recommend them :)
 
i've got a pair of netgear xe104 units (85mbps) and they work well. i have my router, ps3 and plasma in the lounge and a laptop running ps3 media server and my esxi server upstairs in the study. 99% of the time they work flawlessly, very occaisonally you can get a bit of a judder, but nowhere near as bad as a wireless connection which barely worked properly any of the time. the only thing that doesn't work too well is using fast forward. if i have anything that won't play properly then i just use my 16gb usb stick straight into the ps3. other than that they are great.
 
The idea is to stream iPlayer via a Freesat transmission from satellite by a direct connection between the satellite dish and the TV. The LAN port on the TV needs to be connected for this service even though the iPlayer pictures are coming into the TV via satellite.

Not quite. An iPlayer stream travels entirely via the internet and not over Freesat. If the stream was coming over the air, then the picture quality would not be dependant on your internet speed. The sw to play content from the BBC website is simply integrated to the Freesat receiver for convenience, just like iPlayer for Wii or smartphones.
 
Not quite. An iPlayer stream travels entirely via the internet and not over Freesat. If the stream was coming over the air, then the picture quality would not be dependant on your internet speed. The sw to play content from the BBC website is simply integrated to the Freesat receiver for convenience, just like iPlayer for Wii or smartphones.


Ah, OK, I have been getting confused with the actual method. My thoughts were that the LAN connection was to send the instructions re programming and that the Freesat streamed the pictures. However it is the reverse of this. Thx for pointing this out.

It is still theoretical for me at the moment as I do not think Panasonic have updated the Freesat integrated tuner in the TV with the ability to use the technology. The proposed deadline for 2009 TV's was the end of July, perhaps this evening....................


Rgds
Binty
 
My mum uses these and I have to say my experience wasn't great. Couldn't hold a connection long enough to update the firmware on my bluray player. Her house is pretty old so I'm sure it's bad wiring, but they are definately hit and miss.
 
these work absolutely fine for me (200mbps ones) - I stream HD material from my PC to PS3 using PS3MediaServer flawlesly.

But everyone has a different experience so you wont know until you try it. if they dont work out for you just get a refund. I'm currently looking at investing in some Gigabit versions as I do get judder when steaming 1080p material at max settings. 720p stuff is flawless mind.
 
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