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GTX485 Spotted :)

Interested to see how much power this thing will put out. I hope to god though it doesn't run hotter than the 480.
 
I'm guessing a cooler, more efficient GTX 480. Same with what they did with the 465 when they released the 460. Performance should be about the same.
 
I'll guess they'll wait for the 6xxx, it's what they did with the GTX 275, waited until the 4890 was released
 
Unfortunately, experience tells me I won't be able to hold out. Should be a good card, and will probably pave the way for something like a 495. but I don't have time. I'll be getting a 480
 
Only reason to wait for this is it may have lower heat and power consumption levels, an extra 32 shaders is not going to set the world on fire, your PC case maybe.:p
 
Haha. Well, if it comes along in September/October (my ideal buying time) then it might be worth looking at. Other than that, unless it's miles better, then probably not worth it. All depends on the price I suppose eh.
 
Surprised they haven't upped the frequencies on it. The extra CUDA cores won't make that much difference in the end. If they put a better reference cooler on it though it should allow for some more overclocking headroom.
 
I don't see the point it will be hardly 5% faster while definitely more power and produce even more heat, where logic in that?!
 
Nerusy said:
I don't see the point it will be hardly 5% faster while definitely more power and produce even more heat, where logic in that?!
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Not entirely true. The 460 was a small refresh on the fermi GPU and it ended up being much cooler and could overclock much better on air than the other fermi models and the performance increase from the overclcok made it a very good card.

I expect similar results from the 485/475.

I am looking forward to this card and might actually purchase it if it is much cooler and overclocks like the 460.
 
mattjd said:
Not entirely true. The 460 was a small refresh on the fermi GPU and it ended up being much cooler and could overclock much better on air than the other fermi models and the performance increase from the overclcok made it a very good card.

I expect similar results from the 485/475.

I am looking forward to this card and might actually purchase it if it is much cooler and overclocks like the 460.
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But the thing is that the GTX460 is based on the newer GF104 architecture, where as the new card shown on the site from the link in the first post (if it really is gonna be GTX485) is still looks like gonna be on the power-hungry GF100 architecture same as the GTX480, but with full 512 cuda cores...

Let's just hope the GTX480 will discontinue and with the new card replace in at the same price level.
 
aaron333 said:
I'm guessing a cooler, more efficient GTX 480. Same with what they did with the 465 when they released the 460. Performance should be about the same.
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That isn't even close to what happened, the 460 is NOT a cooler more efficient 465, the 480-465gtx are the same core, with various parts fused off, the 460 is a completely different core, with several things cut out, several things added and is noticeably smaller, its more efficient but not particularly more power efficient, it uses 30-40% less power with 30-40% less transistors.

Now, there is a chance they might redo the 512shader model with less tesselation power, less cache, less DP core logic and more TMu's like the GF104, however a 512shader version would still be 30-40% bigger, it would still be 3billion transistors plus and it would still be just as hot and power hungry as a normal 480gtx. THe main thing the GF104 did differently was a different ratio of the various parts of a core which made it work more efficiently.

ITs unlikely they'll put in that much time and effort to make another loss making product thats still to hot, expensive and unavailable to sell that many.

Don't get me wrong, a 480gtx is a great card in terms of performance with all other factors ignored, and redone 480gtx, with more TMU's and less waste would be even faster, but it would still be 3.15billion transistors, it would still be impossible to make at a profit, it would still have crap yields and a full 512sp , full bus version would come in at over 300W and be even hotter and louder than a 480gtx.

Its because of those reasons Nvidia will be very unlikely to bother.

Intel could probably release a 5.5Ghz 8 core I7 on the same process they have now, but yields would be in the toilet and it would cost £2k with the stock cooling being phase change included with it and it would make a loss, meaning there would be little reason to do so.

A 485gtx will probably end up a Asus Mars type product, with a handful available of whatever they managed to stockpile.

Though IIRC that picture was doing the rounds 2 months ago. I'd expect a token launch of the very fastest thing they can make either a day before or a day after the 6870 launch ;) even if its numbered in the low thousands, or even low hundreds in terms of availability.
 
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