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which one of these cards?

I would have said the 285 but I'll admit I'm not certain, see what others say. :) The 285 will cope better where higher amounts of vram are needed.
 
Thanks arc, I proberbly should have mentioned this but the rest of the system is:

XFX Nforce 750i motherboard
Q9650 cpu
4gb (2x2gb) DDR2 1066mhz (Down-clocked at 800mhz for improved CL)
BFG GTX260OC 192SP (what im thinking of replacing)
2x SCSI U320 15k hard drives and PCI controller card
 
If for some reason I wanted to buy a GTX460 I wouldn't get the 768mb version since it's been knee capped by Nvidia (not just less ram but less ROPS and a smaller memory bus) and I definitely wouldn't buy Palit due to the lack of VRAM cooling and noisy fan (there customer reviews at a large US tech store on this card and they say the same thing). If you did want a DX11 card the Radeon HD5830 cab be picked up for around about £140 which gives the same amount of performance as the GTX460 768mb.

The GTX285 is interesting but it's lack of DX11 features might be a turn off, it's stilla powerhouse but if you want DX11 graphics then the GTX460 is the way to go.
 
I don't really mind noise/heat as I always wear a headset and the PC/room has good ventilation, I don't mind ocuk only giving a 3 month warranty as the manufacturer still has to warrant it for a reasonable time even if it is refurbished and no judge would argue that <12 months is reasonable on a £100+ electrical device, and I don't want ATi as my favourite games are all ones that favour nvidia so the 5830 somebody mentioned is actually sub par to my current GTX260 for the games I play
 
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I would say the 460 (can you afford the 1 gig version??) as it has better longer term advantages and also they overclock like crazzies and sli makes them quicker than almost anything ATM.
 
I myself have a 5830 at this time, And I play Railworks a lot and this is PhysX title, I am going to swap it for an GTX460 just deciding which brand!!
 
Guys I don't care about the 3 month ocuk warranty, the manufacturer have to warranty it for 1 year anyway, all i'm concerned about here is performance.
 
Guys I don't care about the 3 month ocuk warranty, the manufacturer have to warranty it for 1 year anyway, all i'm concerned about here is performance.

No, it's a refurb so it only gets 3 months. Just get the GTX460 (but don't get Palit), you will be more then happy with it's performance which BTW should be about identitcal with the GTX280 but costs more as because of the better features.
 
I know ocuk only give 3 months warranty on the refurbs, I was talking about the manufacturers warranty which still covers refurbished products under statutory rights, and im not paying any more for an equal card which is why I wanted to know if the 285 and 460 were equal or not, the only reason I was willing to pay the extra for the Palit was because it had a 15pin VGA connector which meant no DVI adaptor so no case overhanging the desk lol
 
If for some reason I wanted to buy a GTX460 I wouldn't get the 768mb version since it's been knee capped by Nvidia (not just less ram but less ROPS and a smaller memory bus) and I definitely wouldn't buy Palit due to the lack of VRAM cooling and noisy fan (there customer reviews at a large US tech store on this card and they say the same thing). If you did want a DX11 card the Radeon HD5830 cab be picked up for around about £140 which gives the same amount of performance as the GTX460 768mb.

The GTX285 is interesting but it's lack of DX11 features might be a turn off, it's stilla powerhouse but if you want DX11 graphics then the GTX460 is the way to go.

Palit card were fixed not noisy now after the bios update ;)
 
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