Vauxhall - Lifetime Warranty
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Sounds like a good marketing move,
I'm not sure how many people would really exercise the lifetime/100K miles aspect, but it was good to see they are trying to allow subsequent owners to buy the warranty, that would make them also good as second hand buys, assuming favourable rates.
I like the almost Jeremly Clarkson wannabe reaction to Vx on here, they are exactly as pap as Ford/Vw/Citreon/Peugeot/Renault.. which is to say, not too bad really..
It's more sad that larger german companies offer such poor reliability that warranty companies have to handle them with bargepoles, and they have probably the worst warranty terms around... But then with such awesome timebomb engineering practices that yielded the Vanos and Swirlflap debacles, they need to be careful not to offer anything that would cost them so dearly..
I'm not sure how many people would really exercise the lifetime/100K miles aspect, but it was good to see they are trying to allow subsequent owners to buy the warranty, that would make them also good as second hand buys, assuming favourable rates.
I like the almost Jeremly Clarkson wannabe reaction to Vx on here, they are exactly as pap as Ford/Vw/Citreon/Peugeot/Renault.. which is to say, not too bad really..
It's more sad that larger german companies offer such poor reliability that warranty companies have to handle them with bargepoles, and they have probably the worst warranty terms around... But then with such awesome timebomb engineering practices that yielded the Vanos and Swirlflap debacles, they need to be careful not to offer anything that would cost them so dearly..
I think this is a great deal, 100k miles is a lot, and a lot of cars don't even make it (ie due to age etc). I know a lot of cars that are about 10 years old with only about 60-70k miles.
Does it apply to the smaller cars as well or only the bigger more expensive ones?
Does it apply to the smaller cars as well or only the bigger more expensive ones?
Isn't BMWs warranty unlimited for the first 3 years or is that just the MINI brand? Surely a better warranty than Vauxhalls for the fleet market.
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Yes - all BMW warranties provided with a car purchase, both new and used, are unlimited mileage. I'm not saying its neccesary a better offernig, but whats amusing is that Vauxhall claim its LIFETIME and then put a 100k caveat in. It basically says the expected LIFETIME of a Vauxhall car is just 100,000 miles. It's the fact they've actually said lifetime, and then quantified it!
Sure, a BMW or a Mercedes may cost more to repair than a Vauxhall but thats like saying a 1 Star hotel costs less than a 4 star one, really. It's no shocker, neither is it unexpected or comparable. Something like an E Class or a 3 Series Coupe are rather different from a kitchen freezer, sorry, I mean Zafira diesel.
Sure, a BMW or a Mercedes may cost more to repair than a Vauxhall but thats like saying a 1 Star hotel costs less than a 4 star one, really. It's no shocker, neither is it unexpected or comparable. Something like an E Class or a 3 Series Coupe are rather different from a kitchen freezer, sorry, I mean Zafira diesel.
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Wow -I find everyone's Clarkson-esque attitudes to Vauxhall here quite amazing. I work in the industry in the powertrain division for one of GM's main rivals, but even I have to admit the quality of engineering and build in their recent models (in particular the new Astra and Insignia) is first class. Fair enough - their interior material quality isn't up to the standard of the premium marques, but they sell to a different market segment.
GM are actually showing great confidence in their product by offering a 100k mile warranty. It is far better than any other warranty on the market - senior management would have done their analysis very carefully and they wouldn't have offered it if they thought it would affect long term profitability of the company.
The fact is that no manufacturer makes a perfect car -all manufacturer's have cars with common faults. Eg. VW have major issues with porous cylinder heads and unreliable DPF's on their diesel engines; BMW have common faults with the ABS and DSC systems on the E87 and E90 range.
Anyways to liken a modern Vauxhall to a 'fridge freezer' is quite frankly absurd.
GM are actually showing great confidence in their product by offering a 100k mile warranty. It is far better than any other warranty on the market - senior management would have done their analysis very carefully and they wouldn't have offered it if they thought it would affect long term profitability of the company.
The fact is that no manufacturer makes a perfect car -all manufacturer's have cars with common faults. Eg. VW have major issues with porous cylinder heads and unreliable DPF's on their diesel engines; BMW have common faults with the ABS and DSC systems on the E87 and E90 range.
Anyways to liken a modern Vauxhall to a 'fridge freezer' is quite frankly absurd.
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Many an idiot on here stuck up thers own backside. Nice post.
its always fox at the driving seat of the anti vauxhall bandwagon.
think this has to be one of the most bigoted posts i've seen
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I read Lifetime warranty as in the lifetime of the car. ( until it is discontinued ) .Baring in mind On average, UK motorists travel 9,628 miles a year, So for the average person the lifetime warranty will last a little over 10 years. And im pretty sure that the car will have been discontinued by 10 years. So it has indeed on average lasted the lifetime of the car.
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Fox has an unreasonable hatred of Vauxhall though, and while he generally seems to have very reasoned and thought out posts, any post with the word Vauxhall in has him frothing at the mouth!
I think its a great move for the car industry as a whole, maybe this might even put general repair bills down from main dealers!
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Especially considering most of the current vauxhall range are at least as good as and in some cases better than their direct competition.
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Nearly every manufacturer (Not just of automobiles), has a clause in it's "Lifetime warranty", to which it expires. I mean, do you really expect them to repair a car in 50 years time after 300,000 miles? Of course not.
Since it's limited to the first owner and is 100k miles, I think that's a pretty bomb-proof deal if you are buying a new car since it's so rare you're going to keep a car for that length of time anyway.
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Not a Vauxhall owner myself but again I dont understand the hatred. Did we not all enjoy the VXR track days???
I would never buy a brand new car myself but if this warranty does filter down then its only a good thing.
And of course there will be limitations on the mileage just like we all pay for capped 'unlimited internet' and 'up to 20mb broadband' which runs at a something significantly less.
I would never buy a brand new car myself but if this warranty does filter down then its only a good thing.
And of course there will be limitations on the mileage just like we all pay for capped 'unlimited internet' and 'up to 20mb broadband' which runs at a something significantly less.
Lifetime is the lifetime of 98% (or close to) of their brand new customers own the car from.
Its hilarious that Fox etc. try and make it out like its another bad thing from Vauxhall. Its industry leading regardless of the clever marketing (how dare a company market a product cleverly to get more business? iPhone anyone?). Until of course BMW follow suit (which they won't), at which point, it'll be the best thing since sliced bread.
100k is okay without a time limit in my opinion. However, Honda give you 3 years or the 80,000 miles...whichever comes first.
So in 10 years 250k would be suitable!
Vauxhaull could have just done unlimited miles and unlimited time. How many people will do 100k in the lifetime of their car ownership? A fair amount I imagine, how many people do less than 100k? Plenty! Especially the "Brand New Car" buyers who will likely chop it in for a 2013 plate.
Anyone who can run a car for 100k miles is likely to use a warranty less in my opinion.
Anyway, it's a marketing ploy. If the warranty enticed people into never changing cars and being able to refresh parts under warranty they would eventually get less new sales. Probably a push to get some more customers in and retain some loyalty for future purchases.
So in 10 years 250k would be suitable!
Vauxhaull could have just done unlimited miles and unlimited time. How many people will do 100k in the lifetime of their car ownership? A fair amount I imagine, how many people do less than 100k? Plenty! Especially the "Brand New Car" buyers who will likely chop it in for a 2013 plate.
Anyone who can run a car for 100k miles is likely to use a warranty less in my opinion.
Anyway, it's a marketing ploy. If the warranty enticed people into never changing cars and being able to refresh parts under warranty they would eventually get less new sales. Probably a push to get some more customers in and retain some loyalty for future purchases.
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