Vauxhall - Lifetime Warranty

Its marketing. Get used to it ffs?

No one is going to miss the fact they have 100,000 in the clause. I do, however, think if it was another manufacturer.... hmmm lets say BMW, this mountain that was once a mole hill would never have occurred.
 
It's definitely spin, as most good marketing is - you push it as far as you can in the interests of making your product sound better without falling foul of deliberately misleading people into thinking your product is something it isn't and getting sued for it.

Have Vauxhall been liberal with the spin? Yes, no good advertiser wouldn't.

Have Vauxhall been deliberately misleading? No, I don't think so. There is absolutely no ambiguity about the limitations on the warranty, whether you would use the distance allocation in one year or 40 is irrelevant.
 
No one is going to miss the fact they have 100,000 in the clause. I do, however, think if it was another manufacturer.... hmmm lets say BMW, this mountain that was once a mole hill would never have occurred.

Yes, definately this. If BMW did it, we would even change the forum background colour to the BMW logo.
 
You certainly wouldn't have been on a rampage.

Well thats because BMW can do no wrong, I would never go on a rampage about anything they do, because they are perfect. I mean, thats what I obviously constantly post here, right? Every BMW thread is full of me advising the poster how utterly flawless they are in every way.
 
I just think its funny you slate Vauxhall for putting at least some money / faith in their product, yet in a post of yours not so long ago (no way I'm going to try and find it, you can) you basically said BMWs are not the most reliable car and will cost a lot of money to fix.

But no fuss is made against BMW, thats something that comes with the 'pros' of buying an expensive car, however... buy a cheap car that now comes with an extended guarantee? Lets just slate them on the marketing front - yeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
 
I didn't 'basically say' it at all - I categorically came out with it. Which is why it amuses me that there seems to be this odd idea that I think BMW can do no wrong.

Let me say it again for you. BMW's are not the most reliable car on the market and buying a BMW does not guarantee a trouble free ownership experience. They are also not particularly cheap to fix when they go wrong.

There, see? I say it all the time, because although I am a fanboy, I am not a blinded fanboy.
 
You are missing my point... It's not the fact you think BMW can do no wrong, it's the fact that when they do wrong its fine... it's to be expected? "Oh you paid £30k for a new car? Of course its going to break and there is nothing wrong with that"

However, buy a Vauxhall "Oh you paid £10k for a new car? It's going to break down you idiot.". At least Vauxhall have stepped up to the plate and put their money where their mouth is, even if its with the fully accepted bending of the meaning 'lifetime'. Better than the phone providers and their 'unlimited' - the clause is never in the large print.
 
To be honest my opinion on reliability is that all cars break more often than they should unless they are Japanese. But usually, you can put up with it because most brands make up for this in other areas.

Whereas Vauxhall.... doesn't.

'Oh, my Vauxhall broke. Never mind, at least.... errr... erm......'

'Oh, my Mercedes broke. Never mind, at least when its working its a glorious car'

'Oh, my Clio 182 is broken again. Never mind, at least when it works it's probably one of the finest hot hatches the world has ever seen'

A Vauxhall is like a Toyota. Bland, dull, everyday transport. Which is great, but it means its primary function is simply to work when you wish to go to Tesco and not cost any money, because hey, it doesnt od much else. The Toyota does this perfectly. So why bother with the Vauxhall...

... a question it seems even Vauxhall agree with, as this scheme is designed to answer that 'Why bother?' question.
 
Its got a bit depressing this thread now, how did BMW come into it?
 
I just think its funny you slate Vauxhall for putting at least some money / faith in their product, yet in a post of yours not so long ago (no way I'm going to try and find it, you can) you basically said BMWs are not the most reliable car and will cost a lot of money to fix.
It's not about faith in the product as much as it is about Vauxhall feeling this probably won't cost them a lot of money. Most people do not buy a new car and keep it a very long time, especially a Vauxhall. Most people will do 100k in 10 years or less. The reality is that Vauxhall are not going to have to pay out a lot to offer this "lifetime" warranty as the number of vehicles that will be really utilising the cover is minimal.

Interestingly, BMW offer a 3 year unlimited mileage warranty. As long as it's within that 3 years, you can do 300k if you like. However, it's again not as much about faith, as about striking the right balance. Most people can't rack up that many miles in 3 years. Those that do, will be doing it on the motorway, where the rate of wear and tear is far lower and therefore the number of major failures will be minimised.
 
Its got a bit depressing this thread now, how did BMW come into it?

BMW comes into every thread I post in, but ironically almost never through my posts. I even got rid of my sig in the hope it would help, but it didn't. It's ridiculous, I try not to ever mention BMW unless neccesary yet still it happens.
 
Ok Fox - fair enough, but now (as Disco Boy points out) they have addressed that issue with this, but seem to be getting slated regardless? I'm not a fan of Vauxhall (but I do love their track days!), but at least they are doing something about it... more importantly it might push other manufacturers into doing similar. It can certainly do no harm...
 
It's not about faith in the product as much as it is about Vauxhall feeling this probably won't cost them a lot of money. Most people do not buy a new car and keep it a very long time, especially a Vauxhall. Most people will do 100k in 10 years or less. The reality is that Vauxhall are not going to have to pay out a lot to offer this "lifetime" warranty as the number of vehicles that will be really utilising the cover is minimal.

Interestingly, BMW offer a 3 year unlimited mileage warranty. As long as it's within that 3 years, you can do 300k if you like. However, it's again not as much about faith, as about striking the right balance. Most people can't rack up that many miles in 3 years. Those that do, will be doing it on the motorway, where the rate of wear and tear is far lower and therefore the number of major failures will be minimised.
So in other words you're saying both are pointless (well maybe not pointless, but the manufacturers are basically offering something with conditions that mean they are unlikely to be used)?

I'd personally have Vauxhalls cover (if I could apply to any car). I'd always own a car (if from new) for at least 3 years, so having the condition of I must have it from new, rather than a 3 year cut off would be better. I also disagree with
Most people do not buy a new car and keep it a very long time, especially a Vauxhall.
I'd think people are more likely to buy a Vauxhall and keep it for a long long time, than buy an Audi and do the same (this is on the assumption they have more money, so are happier to take the hit of buying a new car ever x number of years).
 
Remember the benefit to the customer of this deal is not the cost of any repiars they'd have to meet if they didnt have the warranty, but the cost of extending another manufacturers warranty.

You can, for example, benefit from an unlimited mileage 5 year warranty on, say, a 3 Series for circa £800 (Or less than 3% on top of the value of the car when you buy it).
 
Yeah, and I have to confess I have no idea how much that would be for other cars except for the figure you've provided, but its 3% for the BMW, but 10% for a corsa (assuming that Vauxhall charged the same figure).

At the end of the day its something the consumer gets for free and if more manufacturers provided it for free, then it can only be a good a thing!

Right - off to town!
 
At the end of the day its something the consumer gets for free and if more manufacturers provided it for free, then it can only be a good a thing!
Oh definitely, a longer warranty is no bad thing - but a limited mileage unlimited time warranty is not going to revolutionise the industry or massively boost Vauxhall's sales. The number of people who will purchase a new Vauxhall and come to genuinely benefit from this is relatively small.

Vauxhall will have carefully analysed vehicle failure rates and times before making this decision, and they will know it is not going to cost them a lot more than the current/previous warranty offering.
 
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