Bedding in brakes?
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Yes
Its the Muppet brigade that say they need bedding in
This is 2010 not 1950, modern pads are good from the word go.
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Where do you get your bespoke pads that already match the brake disc surface perfectly with no high spots on the pad to disc interface?
Muppet brigade, lol. OEM and supply chain engineers are muppets?
Your ass is speaking, make it stop.
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go read what they say on there label
A few light presses in the brake will sort the high spots out.
Ah right, so the box says so....right. I'll do a few gentle rubs to get em nice and smooth then I'll **** the backside out of them coming into an island and all will be fine and dandy, the box says so. Excellent, I knew all those early years of pushing them too hard too early and wondering why that lovely initial early bite actually turned into a soft pedal and a total lack of retardation the harder I pressed because I'd not allowed them time to bed was simply my imagination. I'll call up Tim Harvey and mention it to him come to think of it, he was going slow on Friday testing at Oulton and I said stop driving like a puff. "Bedding in brakes mate" came his answer, can I borrow your box I need to learn him good.
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I have never had a problem with pads and bedding in, maybe you need to learn to drive better?
And we are talking about road cars not racing cars.
And we are talking about road cars not racing cars.
Are you 18 and spotty....wow you're 40!!
I am actually surprised....really, that's rare.
hes right though ?
infact others have said the same throughout the thread so why didnt you insult them ? post-count thing ?
this is assuming that by muppets brigade he means all the people who treat the roads like a race track
Then they are wrong too, post counts matter not one jot. The point is brakes need bedding in, he is wrong as are they. Put brakes in, do a few light stops or ride them for a short space of time to 'bed them in' and you will NOT get full efficiency which may only show itself if you need to use them hard early on.
..or assuming they don't have to emergency stop...
It's not ideal and though it doesn't need days or a 100 miles to bed brakes in they need bedding in, they need heat cycles etc. I don't think any brake manufacturer would disagree and to imply people who bed brakes in or even that they need bedding in are muppets is what I took issue with. As normal I didn't read the entire thread, just spotted the muppets comment and chose that point to dive in.
I had the pads changed week before last on my RS4, both front and back. Front discs and pads were done 30Kish back and both times, more so when discs were done too of course, they needed to be bedded in. Out of the dealers they were dire, as I would expect and a brief drive and some braking patterns, nothing too heavy bought them in but I would say it wasn't until the next day on my way home they felt right.
I remember having brakes changed on one of my old cars some years back and having to use them hard no more than 10 miles from the dealers after a lorry decided to pull out in front of me and I still don't know how I stopped, the thing didn't want to stop. I was in the bedding in process when it happened hence my point about 'until you have to really use them'. Fact is most people won't have to stop quickly thank god, it's when you do you realise how you need to bed in brakes!
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Tim said:
Normally.
Sorry, I don't know what you mean by that, is it half way to ABS, or half the pressure you'd apply driving your mother to the shops?
Try having to do an emergency stop on 50 mile old brakes and report back without fresh trowsers. Even modern brakes need to be bedded in, and "a few light presses" does not mate the two components.
I'm not sure who produces them for Audi or the specs to be honest, though I am told the discs are the same as those fitted to the Gallardo but again can't confirm or deny this. They are not track based pads, they are road car pads and people who run them on track don't feel they are suited to track work which is what I'd expect. They stopped well at VMax but did start to go off fairly quickly after a few 160mph to 0 stops. The brakes on my BMW's (the non M's) were nowt special, neither were the M's really and they all needed bedding in as did those on my wifes cars, not least the MX-5, which use 2 bits of emery paper I believe!
Cracking braking feel on the MX-5 and stop well too, impressed about that more than anything I think at the moment.
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By half pressure I mean between no braking at all and stamping hard on the brakes. So in the middle.
I'll do a scale for you...
HARD_______HERE!!_______ZERO
Ohh and Housey, you seriously crack me up!