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is Physx a big factor?
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It's close to worthless, hardly anything uses it
Physx is a big issue in the minds of those that don't have it as they perceive they are missing out on a fabulous experience.
Don't get me wrong, the effects are decent, just nowhere near enough support to make it a deal breaker.
Physx is a big issue in the minds of those that don't have it as they perceive they are missing out on a fabulous experience.
Don't get me wrong, the effects are decent, just nowhere near enough support to make it a deal breaker.
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VEry few new games support it, infact less new games are supporting it now than a couple years ago, its long since gone past its peak. You've even got huge "the way its meant to be played titles" with a couple fancy physx effects, that use Havok for the main physic engine, like Just Cause 2.
Basically its dead, its been dead for years and never really got off the ground.
If you buy an AMD, or an Nvidia card, just make the choice without thinking about Physx.
I dont think nvidia was exactly giving it away to ati and im sure they would have made sure it didnt run as well on ati hardware as it did on nvidia hardware anyway so it would have been a lose-lose situation for ati.
I dont think nvidia was exactly giving it away to ati and im sure they would have made sure it didnt run as well on ati hardware as it did on nvidia hardware anyway so it would have been a lose-lose situation for ati.
AFAIK the deal was if they take up CUDA then they can have PhysX
No, PhysX is a joke.
If you have Windows 7 you can have both an ATI and Nvidia cards in your system, so you can use an old Geforce 8800gt or similar as the PhysX card.
Nvidia changed their drivers so it wouldn't work if you had an ATI card in the system, but I presume you can just use old drivers or people will have hacked around it.
Even if they did take cuda nvidia would still be able to claim that there graphics cards where better because they ran cuda/physix better than ati and they would make sure they did no matter what ati did. Lose-lose
What games are you on about that run GPU physics which is not PhysX that run better on nvidia cards ?
Because unless you have links i think your mistaken as there are no GPU physics games that are not PhysX at the moment.
Physx would never be a deciding factor in buying a card, things like power consumption, heat output, image quality have a far higher priority for me. All of which ATi have the upper had atm.
The last NVidia card I bought was a geforce 3, that left such a bad taste with the dire image quality, and I mean absolutely dire blurey mess, that nothing nvidia has produced since has been enough to drag me back to them.
I also have the memory of having to use different drivers for different games and not one single driver did them all with the Geforce3, with ATi all the games I use just need the one driver and it was like that when I made the switch from the Geforce3 to the ATi 9700. The 9700 was head and shoulders above what NVidia had at the time which was when NVidia felt the need to start cheating in benchmarks to try and save face when infact it did the exact opposite.
The last NVidia card I bought was a geforce 3, that left such a bad taste with the dire image quality, and I mean absolutely dire blurey mess, that nothing nvidia has produced since has been enough to drag me back to them.
I also have the memory of having to use different drivers for different games and not one single driver did them all with the Geforce3, with ATi all the games I use just need the one driver and it was like that when I made the switch from the Geforce3 to the ATi 9700. The 9700 was head and shoulders above what NVidia had at the time which was when NVidia felt the need to start cheating in benchmarks to try and save face when infact it did the exact opposite.
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FizzX is just about useless. It stood a chance of making a difference a while back when it was Ageia physics but Nvidia have now taken it too far in the wrong direction.
The biggest nail in the coffin and sign of Nvidia intent for FizzX was pulling support from people that purchase a Nvidia FizzX GPU card only to be later be told they also have to purchase a Nvidia graphics card.
What next ? will they need a Nvidia chipset, a 120Hz monitor and some of them ridiculous Roy Orbison glasses
Game Physics needs to be open to run from the CPU and any spare GPU to really take off IMO.
Every time I use FizzX I just find myself thinking, Oh yeah, crap.
The biggest nail in the coffin and sign of Nvidia intent for FizzX was pulling support from people that purchase a Nvidia FizzX GPU card only to be later be told they also have to purchase a Nvidia graphics card.
What next ? will they need a Nvidia chipset, a 120Hz monitor and some of them ridiculous Roy Orbison glasses
Game Physics needs to be open to run from the CPU and any spare GPU to really take off IMO.
Every time I use FizzX I just find myself thinking, Oh yeah, crap.
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I know Crysis can do it, don't remember any others though
PhysX itself is a decent bit of middleware software - capable of advanced physics that are useful to future gaming titles... the way nVidia has handled it tho is not very positive or useful.
I think Mafia II may be the make or break game - even tho it doesn't use it as fully as I'd like - if it does enhance the experience significantly I think other developers will take note - if its a wet blanket then consumers and developers will continue to mostly ignore it.
I think Mafia II may be the make or break game - even tho it doesn't use it as fully as I'd like - if it does enhance the experience significantly I think other developers will take note - if its a wet blanket then consumers and developers will continue to mostly ignore it.
No Crysis can not & you don't remember any others because there aren't any.