don't know what you would class myself as to be honest, i just don't belive in any of that crap whatsoever. Married to a catholic irish girl, she accepted i have no respect or time for her religion, as did her parents. So should this guys girlfriend and her parents. If they can't then why should he lie.
Lying about religious beliefs to girlfriend's family
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Just be honest. Life is a tough winding road. The path is long and we don't all join at the same point.
There is time enough for you to have faith in Jesus, and any self respecting Christian will see this point of view (just phrase it right
).
There is time enough for you to have faith in Jesus, and any self respecting Christian will see this point of view (just phrase it right
).
If you take a moment to think about it, an evidence-based scientific understanding of the operating principles of the world is as much of a belief system as any religion. You're still explaining the world around you in terms specific to that system, which have no place or reason when you take away the laws upon which they're founded, just as "God did it" falls through when you take God out of the equation.
Not that I expect you to understand that. Your contributions so far have clearly been typed around errant splashes of dribble.
Edit: Also, we need pics in order to properly advise the OP. Any advice provided so far could easily be rendered defunct upon production of evidence that OP's girl is a stunner/swamp beast
This tbh...
If you don't believe in God then lying about your beliefs shouldn't matter too much.
Its not like your a devout Jewish person pretending to be Christian or Muslim or vice versa... then you'd have some feelings of guilt etc.. and it would be a big thing to ask.
As an athiest, lying about following some magic sky pixie in order to keep the g/f's sky pixie worshiping parents happy is no big deal any more than pretending that Santa Claus exists so as not to upset small Children. You just humour their beliefs to keep them happy.
His girlfriend has by the sound of it. However, the idea that he should push the issue, perhaps to the point of forcing her to choose between him and her parents, is certainly not something to be entered into lightly.
How do you reckon this will pan out? Surely such a difference in opinions will lead to strife (especially in the vitrolic manner you have presented here; unless you lie about your true feelings on religion to her
) in later years?
Don't lie, tough decision to make I know, but where it end otherwise. If other people are trying to force their opinion on you and they can't see that (insanely common) then they are the ones at fault. You should be able, when asked, to speak your mind politely and just make sure you don't put it over that they should do as you do.
Get practicing!
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Agnostic is far more socially acceptable in the states than atheist. The former sets them a challenge to convert you somewhat, where the latter is just the "i win" button and ****es all over their arguements.
I, too, am atheist, but luckily I don't have an american gf from a god-bothering family. But if put in the situation, I could blagg it a fair deal, I attended a CEVC primary school for 4 years. When I think back at how its indoctrinated onto kids, exploiting their impressionable age where they just accept instead of question, I find it quite sickening. But it does mean I know a fair few bible fairytales.
I don't really "disbelieve", I mean, I like the idea of what they're spouting, it's all idealogical enough, I just can't believe any of it at all
I, too, am atheist, but luckily I don't have an american gf from a god-bothering family. But if put in the situation, I could blagg it a fair deal, I attended a CEVC primary school for 4 years. When I think back at how its indoctrinated onto kids, exploiting their impressionable age where they just accept instead of question, I find it quite sickening. But it does mean I know a fair few bible fairytales.
I don't really "disbelieve", I mean, I like the idea of what they're spouting, it's all idealogical enough, I just can't believe any of it at all
How do you reckon this will pan out? Surely such a difference in opinions will lead to strife (especially in the vitrolic manner you have presented here; unless you lie about your true feelings on religion to her
well ive been with her 10 years and its all good. She knows how i feel about all that crap, and doesnt bother her. Her parents know also and have accepted me.
just to be clear I would only lie because my girlfriend is begging me to, and it would cause her a lot of grief from her family if I didn't. Otherwise I would never lie about it just to get along.
She said she would step in if they asked me to say grace and do it for me.
She said she would step in if they asked me to say grace and do it for me.
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I think if you're serious about her, tell the truth. If you tell a porky now, and it gets serious, you stay together a good long while, they'll find out sooner or later and all hell will break loose.
You don't have to be dismissive, just honest.
And to be honest, if your girlfriend is that terrified of her parents... don't you think that might get on your nerves after a while? I don't think I could be with someone who was that submissive and fearful towards their parents.
You don't have to be dismissive, just honest.
And to be honest, if your girlfriend is that terrified of her parents... don't you think that might get on your nerves after a while? I don't think I could be with someone who was that submissive and fearful towards their parents.
nah being agnostic is really the right position to take if you don't want to hold any strong for/against position - an atheist actively denies that there is a 'God' an agnostic merely holds the position that we don't know/it isn't possible to know.
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Just tell them the truth, religion is a joke, tell them to stop bible bashing and get a life. Religion is for saddos. Funny actually, makes me laugh how when something lucky happens like lightning just misses someone by a inch or someone falls out of a window and survives the sad bible bashing gimps say " that was down to god " but then when something bad happens they say nothing. Tell them you have no reason to belive in something that theres NO PROOF OF. And to stop reading a crappy little book and get a life.
Are you for real?
I really hate it when people say stuff like religion is a joke. You completely misunderstand the whole notion of religion. Religion is mainly built on FAITH. proof is not the point of religion. It is very difficult to prove the existence of God, simply by the very definition of God. Faith means that there is no need for evidence.
Tolerate other people FFS
One thing I've never understood is why this sort of thing causes so many issues, on all sides... I don't understand either why you'd expect someone to share your faith in the home, or to reverse it, where the issue with respecting someone else's faith in their home (or whatever) is, even if you don't share that belief.
I sometimes think I'm really odd in that regard...
I sometimes think I'm really odd in that regard...