The Human Race 'Must Colonise Space Or Face Extinction'

If we progress a decent tech level then by the time the sun comes to kill us, we can either move the planet or keep the sun running.
 
The Mad Rapper said:
Until they start they won't know for sure. My previous comment applies.
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That's pretty silly. No ones driven around the world 100 times. But we know full well we could. The technology we have. from several different projects. It just has to be put together. It may even fail the first couple of times. But we can do it. There's nothing to be proved. all the separate components have been invented and proved.
 
The Mad Rapper said:
An interesting read here.

Stephen Hawking has a point, but I am inclined to take a pessimistic view. Switch the TV on and look at what's going on around the World, how we treat each other. I think we are going to fail as a Race, either by killing ourselves, or by some other means (asteroid impact or similar). We don't have the technology to escape the planet (as an entire Race) either, and I don't think we will - it's just not practical.



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You don't need the whole race to escape, and it does solve a lot of the problems.

after all you only take your loyal people not the people you've been waring/arguing with for decades :p
 
I wish big business and government would get on with it already, do they not realize just how much resource wealth is waiting to be tapped by someone clever enough, there's moons, planets, asteroids rich with stuff, science and technology advancement and who knows what else.

It's a case of us either progressing as a civilization or stagnating and ending up dust, whats it to be?
 
Radiation said:
It's a case of us either progressing as a civilization or stagnating and ending up dust, whats it to be?
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It will come, just probably not in our lifetime. When virgin gets underway and profits start being made. Then it can be funded in the normal way. Once that happens it will rapidly speed up.
 
!bluetonic! said:
Will companies sell air to you much like water and electricity companies today?
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Capitalism wouldn't work in space. It would take amounts of money you couldn't even imagine to start to colonize even the moon, an investment that would see little return in terms of money. No capitalist with that much money would be sensible enough to fund the project, and that's before you even get into the morality of murdering somebody simply because they don't pay for air.

No, true space travel will be the result of peaceful cooperation - people from all walks of life working together towards a common goal. Organised compassion. Socialism.
 
Radiation said:
I wish big business and government would get on with it already, do they not realize just how much resource wealth is waiting to be tapped by someone clever enough, there's moons, planets, asteroids rich with stuff, science and technology advancement and who knows what else.

It's a case of us either progressing as a civilization or stagnating and ending up dust, whats it to be?
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It's too expensive atm, what's the point in mining resources in space if it costs 10 times what you can sell it for?
 
No, true space travel will be the result of peaceful cooperation - people from all walks of life working together towards a common goal. Organised compassion. Socialism.
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thing is, that is pretty much an unprecedented world event, is it not? how do you forsee something that has never happened before, happening?
 
AcidHell2 said:
That's pretty silly. No ones driven around the world 100 times. But we know full well we could. The technology we have. from several different projects. It just has to be put together. It may even fail the first couple of times. But we can do it. There's nothing to be proved. all the separate components have been invented and proved.
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I don't think it is silly. You don't seem to grasp that it's a completely different pursuit entirely sending humans out to Mars. How long did it take NASA to design a spacecraft capable of landing on the Moon? How many different iterations of launch vehicles etc. did they go through? They may well think they have the technology, but until they do it and prove the technology then no-one knows it'll work.

Sending probes to Mars is one thing, it's easier because there are less considerations. As soon as you introduce Humans into the mix you have a whole host of additional issues:

1. Physical effects of exposure to high-energy cosmic rays and other ionizing radiation.
2. Physical effects of a prolonged low-mavity environment.
3. Physical effects of a prolonged low-light environment
4. Psychological effects of isolation from Earth
5. Psychological effects of lack of community due to lack of real-time connections with Earth
6. Social effects of several humans living under crowded conditions for over one Earth year
7. Inaccessibility of terrestrial medical facilities

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Then the spacecraft has to be larger, with more powerful propulsion systems. A Lander Module would be needed, powerful enough to escape Mars' mavity etc. etc. etc.

I don't think they can do it. Not any time soon any way.
 
Superewza said:
Capitalism wouldn't work in space. It would take amounts of money you couldn't even imagine to start to colonize even the moon, an investment that would see little return in terms of money. No capitalist with that much money would be sensible enough to fund the project, and that's before you even get into the morality of murdering somebody simply because they don't pay for air.

No, true space travel will be the result of peaceful cooperation - people from all walks of life working together towards a common goal. Organised compassion. Socialism.
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Not really, you can set up mining bases, the materials go back to earth/wherever everyone up there is there as part of their job with food air and power as part of their wage.


Just like an oil rig now.
 
1. Done with manned missions to moon
2. Done, several missions and two space stations
3. what? low light, artifical lights, or sun. Again two space stations
4. Again two space stations
5. Again moon landings, space stations, tests on earth
6. Again space station and tests on earth
7. Again space stations, moon landings.
 
The Mad Rapper said:
The only way it would happen of course; in response to an assured extinction level event.
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nah some people wouldnt believe it, other people would rather rob steal and loot, living for today not some promised future in space.

look at any country in a time of war, even when fighting for their own liberty (which is about as close to extinction as you could get) you still get all of the aforementioned behaviours. sure 80% of the population might pull together but never does 100%.

and then you get on to subjects such as, is that dried food ration HALAL etc?
 
Superewza said:
No, true space travel will be the result of peaceful cooperation - people from all walks of life working together towards a common goal. Organised compassion. Socialism.
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that will never work, humans are greedy thats why socialism never works. The thing that will push forward space exploration is money, money from the resources to be mined from asteroids and moons.
 
I don't think you are taking into consideration how fast we are evolving as a race. Look how far we have come in the past 100 years with technology. We have already been to the moon and already looking at going to planets in our own solar system, things that 100 years ago people couldn't even DREAM of.

Give us another 100 years and I think we will be advanced enough for space travel. And there is no way in hell (Unless for some reason we DO all die before then) the sun will wipe us out. A billion years or so of technological advances and we are still on earth. We would have evolved physically in a few billion years to adapt to our new way of life most likely (I vote we evolve with a Network Card in our brain :D).

Conclusion: I think give it another 20-50 years. We will have a base on the moon or maybe even on Mars. Who knows what huge technological break-throughs will occur in this decade. And there is always the possibility of Aliens finding us!

/Johnathan
 
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