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the_candyman

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Hi all
I'm wondering if someone can help me with passports. I currently hold a UK and a New Zealand passport and if I was to travel to New Zealand on a return flight, which passport should I use? Or should I use both, in which case which one for what part of the journey?
I'm only considering this because I think it would be more simple in customs to avoid such long queues etc.
Any help on this would be much apreciated :)
 
When my cousin and aunt travel they use their UK passport when arriving in England and their Ozzie passport when arriving in Australia to save on the queues
 
I have 2 passports as well. I just use the one more suitable for the destination. Or just whichever one I pick up first. Don't take both no point. One more thing to lose.
 
Take both, unless you are prone to losing stuff, to avoid on queues but you often have to plug in your passport number when booking flights so remember to take the one that you used to do that.
 
I have dual nationality for Hong Kong. When I arrive in HK I stamp in (finger sensor) and when I leave I use my HK passport. I use my UK passport when I arrive back to tell immigration I'm back in this lovely country :)
 
loopylou said:
When my cousin and aunt travel they use their UK passport when arriving in England and their Ozzie passport when arriving in Australia to save on the queues
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Sound like a cool idea but the only issue is, which one do you use on exit of the country as wouldn't they be looking for a stamp to say you have been in the country. An example would be if you left Australia on a UK but entered the country on a Australian passport, wouldn't they look for the stamp you have been there?
 
you use the passport for the country you are arriving in. My daughter has to use her US passport when leaving the UK for the USA and her UK passport when leaving the USA for the UK.

Shes considered a british citizen in britain and an American in the USA. if that makes sense ? :)
 
doofski said:
you use the passport for the country you are arriving in. My daughter has to use her US passport when leaving the UK for the USA and her UK passport when leaving the USA for the UK.

Shes considered a british citizen in britain and an American in the USA. if that makes sense ? :)
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The way I understand it is if you take an oath to another country then you rescind American citizenship. For example, if your daughter was to serve in the British armed forces and as such took an oath towards the Queen and this Country she would have to give up her American citizenship. Do you know anything about this? Also she would be prevented from working for the Government if an oath was required for that work.

I suppose Dual Nationality issues are taken case by case and aren't quite as cut and dry as that? But would be interesting to see what would happen if an American took an oath to protect Queen and Country.
 
Ahleckz said:
The way I understand it is if you take an oath to another country then you rescind American citizenship. For example, if your daughter was to serve in the British armed forces and as such took an oath towards the Queen and this Country she would have to give up her American citizenship. Do you know anything about this? Also she would be prevented from working for the Government if an oath was required for that work.

I suppose Dual Nationality issues are taken case by case and aren't quite as cut and dry as that? But would be interesting to see what would happen if an American took an oath to protect Queen and Country.
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Pretty sure the US is a country which allows Dual Nationalities.

Some countries do not allow you to be of "Dual nationality" and you are forced to choose one or the other (give up one and keep one). As far as I know, this is purely up to the Government to decide whether or not to allow people to be recognised as a National of more than 1 country.
 
the_candyman said:
Hi all
I'm wondering if someone can help me with passports. I currently hold a UK and a New Zealand passport and if I was to travel to New Zealand on a return flight, which passport should I use? Or should I use both, in which case which one for what part of the journey?
I'm only considering this because I think it would be more simple in customs to avoid such long queues etc.
Any help on this would be much apreciated :)
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I would take both in case there are any complications with 'what are you doing and how long are you staying' etc. In practice however I doubt it matters, and I don't know what queues you're referring to as passport control itself has always been a tiny queue in my experience.
 
The solution is to get a PR Visa for NZ in your UK passport and travel on that - that's what I do. A PR Visa means you jumpo in the same queue as NZ Passport holders so the lines are no longer!

The Yanks are not that keen on people who use a passport on one leg of a journey and then swap to another for another bit of it. There is nothingillegal about it, just that they may ask you questions if you go to/from the States on that journey (or naother journey).
 
Take both and use the one of the country you are arriving into.

(Just make sure you have them NZ one handy, in case the terrorists on your flight single out the American and UK passport holders like they usually do ;) )
 
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AtticusFinch said:
The solution is to get a PR Visa for NZ in your UK passport and travel on that - that's what I do. A PR Visa means you jumpo in the same queue as NZ Passport holders so the lines are no longer!

The Yanks are not that keen on people who use a passport on one leg of a journey and then swap to another for another bit of it. There is nothingillegal about it, just that they may ask you questions if you go to/from the States on that journey (or naother journey).
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Yes as I think I would need to get two ESTA Visa's for each passport if I went via the USA as they only allow one passport per Visa
 
Smit said:
Pretty sure the US is a country which allows Dual Nationalities.

Some countries do not allow you to be of "Dual nationality" and you are forced to choose one or the other (give up one and keep one). As far as I know, this is purely up to the Government to decide whether or not to allow people to be recognised as a National of more than 1 country.
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Found this,

"Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481), as amended, states that U.S. citizens are subject to loss of citizenship if they perform certain specified acts voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship. Briefly stated, these acts include:

1. obtaining naturalization in a foreign state (Sec. 349 (a) (1) INA);
2. taking an oath, affirmation or other formal declaration to a foreign state or its political subdivisions (Sec. 349 (a) (2) INA);
3. entering or serving in the armed forces of a foreign state engaged in hostilities against the U.S. or serving as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer in the armed forces of a foreign state (Sec. 349 (a) (3) INA);
4. accepting employment with a foreign government if (a) one has the nationality of that foreign state or (b) an oath or declaration of allegiance is required in accepting the position (Sec. 349 (a) (4) INA); "

I suppose the important bit is "intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship". I suspect there are grounds that you could be relinquished of your citizenship but it would never happen on the grounds I suggested. The website does go on to say that dual nationality is acceptable, but they accept this may cause problems and that they may not be afforded consular protection abroad because of this.
 
Yes - you get the Visa once (will cost you a cuple of hundy) then pay a fee of like $50 NZ every 10 years to move the Visa when you renew your UK passport - Simples.

If you're a Kiwi, then you automatically qualify for PR so no wories bro.

It works out a lot cheaper over time than holding both passports anyway (gotta renew your NZ one every 5 years anyway).

Also - if you want to be really cheap and are only going back to NZ for 3 months or less you need no Visa anyway and can just be a visitor on your UK passport for that length of time. If you change your mind you would just need to ge tin touch with Immigration in NZ and they can sort it out.
 
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