Tell me about Audi A3s
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I felt the interior quality of the LCI 1 series was a lot better having compared them side by side, still not up to E39 standards though!
I think the 123d and 130i have electric steering, and on fairly lengthy test drives it seemed absolutely fine to me.
Start/Stop is a great idea, I can't really see any downsides to it so I'm not quite sure why you'd call it rubbish either
I think the 123d and 130i have electric steering, and on fairly lengthy test drives it seemed absolutely fine to me.
Start/Stop is a great idea, I can't really see any downsides to it so I'm not quite sure why you'd call it rubbish either
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It's noisy.
[TW]Fox;17121653 said:
Your opinion. I think the fact you clearly have a thing against diesels makes you slightly more sensitive to the sound. But I'm yet to have any one in my car comment on the fact it's noisy.
You know I hate the sound my car makes on a cold morning, but as much as I hate that diesel sound, I'd never describe it as loud or noisy.
I used so say that about my Citroen diesel. I wasn't right, I just didn't know any better. Your 120d is noisy. Stop start is good.
Trying to argue with you about anything BMW related is pointless so I'm going to shut up 
But it's not noisy. And that's a rubbish comparison to be fair, the BMW diesels are a million times more refined than the Citroen equivalent. And again, it's not noisy. Infact, I've sat in several cars since owning mine where I've thought "this is louder than my car, and not in a good way", and they're petrol cars!
But it's not noisy. And that's a rubbish comparison to be fair, the BMW diesels are a million times more refined than the Citroen equivalent. And again, it's not noisy. Infact, I've sat in several cars since owning mine where I've thought "this is louder than my car, and not in a good way", and they're petrol cars!
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If I could interject with my own experiences of spending £17k on a hatchback...
I'm pleased with our Golf, but there is a nagging feeling as to what a great car I could have got for £17k if we'd bought second hand, e.g. a 2.7 A6 Avant, which I really like and which have more than fulfilled any loading and practicality requirements we have.
To some extent this has been mitigated by the fact that our depreciation pain should be fairly low, but in any case I'd think hard about what £17k could get you elsewhere unless you find a great deal on one. The A3 has been refreshed to more than bring it up to date so although it's an old base, it's still a competitive premium hatchback.
That said, some people like spending £10k on an old shed, then another £7k and all of their spare time making it mint. Others do not.
Finally, I also strongly urge you to disregard this comment:
'I find they firstly offer very poor value for money and are a compromised design - compromised in the name of practicality'
due to the fact that it really makes no sense unless taken in context of the requirements of the individual owner. It's only compromised if the owner values saloon-like refinement, over hatchback-like practicality.
I beleive this was the point everyone made at the time. You swore blind it wasn't the case, mind.
What an odd comment. Unless you are buying a clapped out Aston DB7 or an old M5 or something I don't really know what sort of 'old shed' you'd find for £10k, especially in the hatchback market!
It's always a compromise, you compromise on refinement and gain on practicality in exactly the same way that a saloon compromises on practicality and gains on refinement.
It's up to the owner which compromise suits them best, obviously, but it's still a compromise!
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Except that an Audi is better built than a VW, so he is getting something of value for his extra cash - better build quality.
Errr yea, its totally the same thing. That comment would have been valid had I been complaining at how loud it was inside an Exige. After all, its a stripped out racer, its loud, end of.
All I am doing is explaining why Stop Start is beneficial in a 118d.
No it doesn't - if there isn't sufficient 'coolness' in the AC to maintain cabin temperature, it doesnt cut out, or restarts if the engine is off.
Yea me too, i think they are trying too hard now.
You have ended up with a bottom of the range technology nightmare in 5 years time. Leave basic cars basic.
For £12k I can get an 07 Focus ST with just over 20,000 miles on it. Just couldn't justify the thought of a near 20k hatch when you can get something like an ST for that money.
Golf GTI, R32, S3 all sound lovely but they would be nearer £15k for something of similar age and mileage I'd say.
Don't think there is much else to consider really.
Is an 07 ST going to be much different than an 08 onwards?
Golf GTI, R32, S3 all sound lovely but they would be nearer £15k for something of similar age and mileage I'd say.
Don't think there is much else to consider really.
Is an 07 ST going to be much different than an 08 onwards?
I don't know when it happened but the facelift Focus has a much much better interior. You really would want one with a facelift interior if you're spending that much on a Ford.
Yes it does. I had a 118d in Spain and I can tell you, it got rather stuffy rather quickly.[TW]Fox;17122604 said:
Unless they've fixed it on the LCI, of course.
Anyway, this stop start only saves something pathetic like 0.8MPG on a run through town. The only reason it's there is for the EU CO2 emissions and them being able to say it achieves über-epic MPG.