Graduates struggling to find jobs

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sandman06 said:
This is why I think sandwich courses are best.
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Depends on the subject and the university.

'the best' would be to go to a top uni, with top grades and get a job upon graduation rather than spend an extra year earning <grad wage...

For a lot of people a sandwich course does make sense in terms of decreasing your risk of being unemployed upon graduation. Though you're paying a premium for that decrease in risk through opting to earn a lower salary for a year prior to graduation.
 
im going to learn german or dutch at my local college, with my degree and 5 yrs experience I'll get a job soon? :(

Been 7 months on the dole :/ I hate sitting next to druggies to get me moniez.
 
As someone who interviews and employ people I rarely, if at all, look at CV's. I read introductory letters and perhaps look at hobbies.

Graduates coming out of uni with a shiny new degree knows nothing anyway and need to be trained from the ground up. I think I employ more people without degrees than with degrees because those without try harder. I had a degree applicant which didn't know the difference between CM or Inches. I had a degree applicant fail a basic introductory site safety course.

I've completely stopped asking for any official qualifications and started focusing on experience or willingness to gain experience as I had to suffer one idiot degree applicant after another.

Reminds me of something I read in the Evening Standard about an Oxford graduate being sent to Brussels for a work assignment. She asked if she needed a passport...
She was then told she'd be travelling on the Eurostar where she asked if she'd be seeing any fishes around her as she travelled under the sea ....

Oxford graduate.
 
meghatronic said:
This is the problem with >50% of 18yr olds going to university. Saturation.
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Saturation isn't the problem. The clever people doing difficult degrees leads to high paid jobs worldwide (I know that if I earnt £100,000 a year then I would move somewhere where I wouldn't be getting bent over for the 40% tax bracket - Saturation isn't an issue. If the UK has loads of maths/engineer/physics grads then may be we will bloody manufacture something again!).

Doing 6 hours a week of event management (aka party planner) at built-ten-years-ago-bottom-of-the-rankings-and-used-to-be-a-college university is the problem.

Some of the degrees are so useless that the individual would have been better being in employment since 16 or 18 and getting promoted.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with apprenticeships - Get paid for learning a real trade.
 
Oxy said:
im going to learn german or dutch at my local college, with my degree and 5 yrs experience I'll get a job soon? :(

Been 7 months on the dole :/ I hate sitting next to druggies to get me moniez.
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There are other English speaking countries, try America, Australia,

Countries such as Kuwait,Dubai like to employee British Grads.

Or possible look into TEFL abroad, just to gain some experience, networking and get an overall feel of what out there, besides uk.
 
mjt said:
Learn a foreign language and your employment chances will rise dramatically.
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This is a very good idea, even just a good GCSE will be good enough. In some jobs you also get paid more for knowing another language.

IMHO, take french, it's very easy!
 
its not just uni graduates struggling to find jobs its near enough everyone

theres no jobs for school leavers so they go to college , no jobs for college leavers so they go to uni , no jobs for uni leavers so they A) claim benefits B)leave the country and go pay taxes elsewhere C) go back to uni

why would companies want to set up and offer jobs here anyway ? when its so much cheaper for them to setup elsewhere and poach our best graduates with better wages than the competition here can offer


our government aren't doing much to stop this either. both coalition parties had promised the long planned tax breaks for certain industries (that we wanted to keep in the UK!) and it all got scrapped within months of them being voted in :/
 
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We have minimal skilled and unskilled work in this country, so people have to go higher up in education to stand a chance of getting a professional job.

Until we get some first and second tier industries back, this is not going to change.
 
vonhelmet said:
We have minimal skilled and unskilled work in this country, so people have to go higher up in education to stand a chance of getting a professional job.

Until we get some first and second tier industries back, this is not going to change.
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That's because we have an influx of EU immigration.

Go into your GP there are all locum doctors from abroad.

There is talk about jobs being created in new wave of IT and Green/Climate fuel industry.

This so called digital Britain they talk about and green sector.
 
Funny, I speak 3 languages and no employer seems to care or even ask me about it.

Do people babbling about this actually speak anything other then english or are they just trying to take a jab at ethnic minorities?

By the way, I'm studying law and I'm hoping I won't have a problem finding a decent job when I'm done, even if it's not in the law field, but I'm sorry, if you think every history or arts graduate deserves a 30k+ job with how the economy is at the moment then gtfo :rolleyes:
 
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sandman06 said:
There are other English speaking countries, try America, Australia,

Countries such as Kuwait,Dubai like to employee British Grads.

Or possible look into TEFL abroad, just to gain some experience, networking and get an overall feel of what out there, besides uk.
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yeh might spam C.V's off. Trouble is being 27, I have exhausted my Mummy and Daddy's generousity, that and I dare not ask for for money.

I would have no money to go to our old colonies :D
 
People can barely speak English, you think the employer gives a damn if your illiterate in another language.

Its only good for job markets abroad.
 
franco_22 - If you speak 3 other languages then you could work in (at least) 3 other countries right? this will increase the number of jobs available to you.

Ok so you may not want to move - but maybe you could if you really needed to?

EDIT - employers will often pay moving expenses for the right person too - mate of mine got a job incl moving expenses + visa help from a US company who he just spam'd his CV off to.
 
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I think poor graduates are just stuck in the middle between leaving the uni and trying to get a job. It's not graduate responsibility for creating job opportunities for young people. The people in authority whoever they may be;mainly from government, industry and academia need to form a coherent policy on how best to help young people get into employment or training courses.

Modern day graduates aren't the one who shaped and formed degrees or apprenticeships or any other training courses for that matter. These poor souls are just following a deceptive system where they will mainly be a victim.
I am saying this from my own experience who graduated 4 years ago in engineering and haven't been able to land a single engineering job. I have mainly learned about the real world after leaving uni. So though I don't have relevant industrial experience but I can safely say that I have real life experience.
I have looked at alternate roots like an academia career or going into teaching but these things are proving to be major hurdles/challenges aswell.

In the end all I can say is and as everyone else says that it has become a 'dog eat dog' world where everyone only cares about his/her own interest and has no regards for other people sufferings be they young or old. So if you are 'successful' you are appreciated not just by your own immediate working environment but also by society as large if you can call modern UK a society. If you don't make it then you are just a worthless human being and nothing more.
 
That's true master but if I speak spanish and portuguese, why would I want to move to any spanish speaking country from England?

That's like someone who speaks English and Chinese moving to China, yeah unless you can get a CEO or other high level position, I don't think it will be worth the effort.
 
WingZero30 said:
I think poor graduates are just stuck in the middle between leaving the uni and trying to get a job. It's not graduate responsibility for creating job opportunities for young people. The people in authority whoever they may be;mainly from government, industry and academia need to form a coherent policy on how best to help young people get into employment or training courses.

Modern day graduates aren't the one who shaped and formed degrees or apprenticeships or any other training courses for that matter. These poor souls are just following a deceptive system where they will mainly be a victim.
I am saying this from my own experience who graduated 4 years ago in engineering and haven't been able to land a single engineering job. I have mainly learned about the real world after leaving uni. So though I don't have relevant industrial experience but I can safely say that I have real life experience.
I have looked at alternate roots like an academia career or going into teaching but these things are proving to be major hurdles/challenges aswell.

In the end all I can say is and as everyone else says that it has become a 'dog eat dog' world where everyone only cares about his/her own interest and has no regards for other people sufferings be they young or old. So if you are 'successful' you are appreciated not just by your own immediate working environment but also by society as large if you can call modern UK a society. If you don't make it then you are just a worthless human being and nothing more.
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I agree completely.

A perfect example of selfish, individual oriented western values.

or for those who didn't want to read: me me me me
 
i guess it all comes down to how desperate you are for work - plenty of people go abroad for work - are the English too good to do that?
 
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