Massive military cuts

when are we going to get proper UAVs.

Boom! The recently unveiled BAE Taranis, aptly named after the Celtic god of thunder. It can autonomously route itself to a target, but will always involve a man in the loop when it comes to weapons release. I can't see the political will existing to allow drones to autonomously hunt down and kill people without someone making the decision to pull the trigger though.
 
UAV's are used quite a lot.

We use the Reaper - http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/reaper.cfm

Although I personally don't think one will ever be developed to fly 'on it's own' without a pilot controlling it from somewhere. Firstly I can't begin to imagine how much it would cost to develop the AI to do the 'hunting' - I don't even think that sort of technology even exists yet? Secondly can a computer REALLY know that what it is about to blow up is 100% enemy? Computers will never be able to 'adapt' to a scenario quite like a pilot could.
 
And why do you think something like Foreign Aid should suffer ?

The reason China is pouring more than a billion of it's foreign aid into Africa, South America and the Middle east is because it badly needs oil and minerals.

Do you honestly think we give aid to the remotest of countries just becuase we feel sorry for them ? If we fail to give them some backhanders - how do you propose we get all those essential elements that every other country has to pay full whack for ? And how do you propose we get all those British Nationals out of those Asian 'Banged up Abroad' jails when they are stupid enough to smuggle that 2Kg of dope ?
 
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Secondly can a computer REALLY know that what it is about to blow up is 100% enemy?

humans have proved repeatedly that they can't tell what's an enemy 100% why should you hold a machine to such a standard?



Computers will never be able to 'adapt' to a scenario quite like a pilot could.

But a computer could pull moves that no human pilot would have a chance of surviving.

Missiles seem to do pretty well with relatively basic equipment/"intelligence"
 
humans have proved repeatedly that they can't tell what's an enemy 100% why should you hold a machine to such a standard?

But a computer could pull moves that no human pilot would have a chance of surviving.

Missiles seem to do pretty well with relatively basic equipment/"intelligence"

Correct - but who makes the decision to release them? Humansm before anything is done it has to be checked to ensure it isn't 'against the law' so to speak - I don't believe a computer would be able to do this.

Also planes can take off - fly to destination - and then land by themselves, yet there is always a pilot on board - why?
 
Also planes can take off - fly to destination - and then land by themselves, yet there is always a pilot on board - why?

legal and public opinion.
Neither of which is a strict for milliatry.

If sensors are good enough. Computers are far better and far faster at analysing data. Can track and know here everything is fired from and in far quicker times than humans.

I imagine that at some point. UAVs will go more computerised. With something like fire at will, fire at certain targets or human authorisation needed.

depending on targets and battlefeild conditions. If in a dessert fighting a conventional army, liek the initial invasion of iraq. i don;t see why it could not be fire at will. Easy to identify enemy targets and low risk of collateral damage.Then in Afghanistan inside citys, needs human authorisation before any missile launch.
 
Could a computer tell the difference between a farmer running away from a conflict or the intended enemy?

Watch the following youtube video, do you think a computer would be able to work out whats going on in the video? It could have just been children playing or anything.
I agree that it would be a good idea to have fully unmanned UAV's however with decisions like the below needed to be made I very much doubt it would ever happy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk9rRKj3Ps0
 
Isn't a cruise missile basically a fast jet without a pilot? The ordnance could in theory be strapped to the bottom, be dropped on target and the 'missile' return home.
 
Could a computer tell the difference between a farmer running away from a conflict or the intended enemy?

That depends on what sensors and cameras it carries and what it inbuilt rule of engagments are.

For instance enemy milliatry vehicles are easy to identify, as are fire arms being fired in your direction.

I can't identify anything in that video, but obviously someone trained can. A computer can do the same. If they where setting up a rocket system. that would have identifiable attributes. Again this comes back to what orders and inbuilt rules of engagements it has been given. if it is unsure it could ask for human assistance.
 
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On some level I do agree with you, if for example it was against a 'bigger army' you would easily be able to notice large artillery getting set up, but against the taliban - no.

Somebody could be sat at the side of the road setting an IED up - because they can be something as small as a coke can a computer wouldn't have that 'instinct' a human would.
 
On some level I do agree with you, if for example it was against a 'bigger army' you would easily be able to notice large artillery getting set up, but against the taliban - no.
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Which is why I said diffract states of orders and different rules of engagements for different battle fields. It's a computer it can have hundreads of different programs and selected with a touch of a button.

With something like fire at will, fire at certain targets or human authorisation needed.

depending on targets and battlefield conditions. If in a dessert fighting a conventional army, like the initial invasion of iraq. i don;t see why it could not be fire at will. Easy to identify enemy targets and low risk of collateral damage.Then in Afghanistan inside citys, needs human authorisation before any missile launch.
 
Also planes can take off - fly to destination - and then land by themselves, yet there is always a pilot on board - why?

probably the same reason that the medical machines that performed better than doctors weren't used.

If something goes wrong no one knows who to sue.
 
Could a computer tell the difference between a farmer running away from a conflict or the intended enemy?


Humans failed to identify the difference between a British convoy and some kind of rocket luncher.

Humans failed to identify a camera man instead thinking it was an RPg.
 
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