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GTX 460 or GTX 465?

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if one could get a hold of either card at similar prices, which one is best and why...? all the reviews and research i have done so far has pointed toward the GTX 465 as being the superior card, due to the fact it has more processors than the 460. only ask because the GTX 465 some places on the net is virtually same price as 460. thanks folks :)
 
They are pretty much neck and neck in gaming performance (GTX460 perhaps slightly ahead on average), but the GTX460 overclocks better and uses less power therefore putting out less heat. The GTX465 is generally somewhat faster in compute.

If you're just buying it for gaming then i'd personally go with the GTX460.
 
id go for the 460's, there newer and better design, use less power, quieter and generate less heat

465's are essentially downgraded 470's.

an overclocked 460 is pretty quick
 
another thing, is it worth the extra £ to go for GTX 470 instead of GTX 460, what sort of performance difference between the two? on paper the GTX 470 is a fair bit more powerful, has like hundred more cores, more memory bandwidth, more ROPs and more texture units, but how does this translate into real-world?
 
another thing, is it worth the extra £ to go for GTX 470 instead of GTX 460, what sort of performance difference between the two? on paper the GTX 470 is a fair bit more powerful, has like hundred more cores, more memory bandwidth, more ROPs and more texture units, but how does this translate into real-world?

There are plenty of reviews comparing exactly this.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/07/12/nvidia-geforce-gtx-460-graphics-card-review/1

http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/19242/7

The GTX470 is quicker but the GTX460 is not far behind. When overclocked the GTX460 closes the gap quite considerably.

Rememberthat the 460 is ~ £60 cheaper than the 470, runs cooler, quieter and uses considerably less power under load.
 
Once overclocked though a 470 will destroy any 460 no matter how high you clock it. Pretty much every 470 clocks at least 30% over stock. I can run 850 core 1700 shader no worries, so faster than a stock 480 albeit with a fair bit less memory bandwidth to play with.
 
how about GTX 295's, seen a couple of them available in places. they are faster than GTX 460/470 right?
 
They are pretty much neck and neck in gaming performance (GTX460 perhaps slightly ahead on average), but the GTX460 overclocks better and uses less power therefore putting out less heat. The GTX465 is generally somewhat faster in compute.

If you're just buying it for gaming then i'd personally go with the GTX460.

I've had a play with both and I agree with the above.
 
A 1gb 460gtx at £175ish it was earlier today is not at all a bad price, better than a 465gtx all the way, and the 470gtx isn't really fast enough to justify the jump to the next price.

Realistically, if you have a board capable of sli/xfire, or both, I'd be choosing between a 460gtx 1gb, a 5850, or 2 of either of them to fit in your budget.

You pretty much won't see any difference between a 470/5850 at all, overclocked a 5870 won't really outdo either by much and a 480gtx while a bit faster than a 5870, will cost more and perform far worse than 2x460 or 2x5850. So any "normal" gaming systems really for value should be looking at any of those 4 choices.
 
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Personally I wouldn't touch the GTX465. The 460 768mb outperforms pretty much all the time.

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Realistically, if you have a board capable of sli/xfire, or both, I'd be choosing between a 460gtx 1gb, a 5850, or 2 of either of them to fit in your budget.

You pretty much won't see any difference between a 470/5850 at all, overclocked a 5870 won't really outdo either by much and a 480gtx while a bit faster than a 5870, will cost more and perform far worse than 2x460 or 2x5850. So any "normal" gaming systems really for value should be looking at any of those 4 choices.

HardOCP done an article and tom's have one coming on SLI/Crossfire Scaling. According to Hard the SLI460 beats a HD5870 crossfire settup. Seems latest drivers are reducing Crossfire performance. Its something that surprised me enough to doubt the results but Im currently looking through more benchmarks to see if the result is replicated. As a result I would avoid crossfire if possible.
 
Personally I wouldn't touch the GTX465. The 460 768mb outperforms pretty much all the time.

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HardOCP done an article and tom's have one coming on SLI/Crossfire Scaling. According to Hard the SLI460 beats a HD5870 crossfire settup. Seems latest drivers are reducing Crossfire performance. Its something that surprised me enough to doubt the results but Im currently looking through more benchmarks to see if the result is replicated. As a result I would avoid crossfire if possible.


If you look at HardOCP'ds own results for the HD5970, Asus Ares and HD5870 CF you will see something is definately a miss with their latest 'reviews'.

It has been pointed out quite a few times by multiple members in their forums that the performance seen (in the the GTX460 SLI comparisons) is not representative of what HD58XX CF can do.

It wouldn't matter so much if the editors weren't so unprofessional about it. Some of their replies in the forums are laughable at best.
 
If you look at HardOCP'ds own results for the HD5970, Asus Ares and HD5870 CF you will see something is definately a miss with their latest 'reviews'.

It has been pointed out quite a few times by multiple members in their forums that the performance seen (in the the GTX460 SLI comparisons) is not representative of what HD58XX CF can do.

It wouldn't matter so much if the editors weren't so unprofessional about it. Some of their replies in the forums are laughable at best.

Thats true, I can find Kyle objective some of the time but very bias and arrogant most other times. I understand the side that he produced a piece of work and it comes underfire so him being defensive but there has been calls for driver testing which seems to be frustratingly brushed aside. I don't want to get into name smearing debate tho. I like some aspects of his reviewing technique but I know CF shouldn't scale as bad as that but if it isn't representive of what the cards can do, there is an actual problem somewhere. Hopefully a follow up will sort things out. I didn't turn up much on the web apart from older CF tests. Unfortunatly I don't have time to look out more due to leaving the country in a few hours (plus its a topic for another thread). Ill see whats happening when I get back.
 
I don't know if you use CS5 but if you do then get the 465 as the GTX460 has 336 Cuda cores.
You need the 1GB DDR5 version of this card for Mercury Playback to work.
The GTX465 has 352 Cuda cores and does not need the 1GB to run Mercury Playback.
 
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