**** Original Starcraft 2 Thread ****

CaptainRAVE said:
Has worked a few times now. I think a few people are clue'd up on it. But since I am still in the silver league and haven't played much, lots of people seem to fall for it. An evil tactic, but amusing to watch. The guy who scouted all positions, saw I wasn't there and just quit :p
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Why would they do that instead of just building some air units and then destroying your base?
 
Been wonderign, i've got the standard edition, and the collectors edition. If i put the collectors edition onto my normal account, will that free up the key for my standard editionso my flat mate can use it? or will both of them be tied to my account?

EDIT: hmm my sigs been taken off, yet its the same as everybody elses, and i thought your allowed one line of text/link under it?
 
kar said:
This wont work versus protoss, I mean first thing I would expect when I arrived at your base at around 11 supply, is for you to have lifted off and gone to the gold expansion. If I didn't find you there, I'd then assume you'd gone island and were going banshees. Two gates and a robo will destroy this with no trouble at all. And it will be nigh on impossible for you to expand from that position.
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Hmm, kinda. I guess it depends how early I get scouted, or even if they bother scouting me as some people who proxy just get themselves tucked away and don't move (talking Bronze/Silver play here)/ In that case they'd get some units, come to my base and I'm not there, then go looking for me. In that time I could be well on the way to a starport or even started my tech lab for it. Some people may just immediately assume I've gone to the island, some would check gold, some would check my natural expansion, others may just check the whole map before thinking about the island. some may just outright quit the game as Rave found :P

Also, on the Banshee thing, that's another part of the strat, some people would assume Banshees, but I could easily Medivac drop marines / marauders due to how close the island expansion is to the main base, would take maybe 5 seconds to load in, fly, unload. Plus, instead of killing that 6th SCV, I could send it into a position to proxy something.

Baring in mind though this is for Scrap Station, wouldn't do this on the majority of the others, and I'd rather just go Reapers, MM or just pumping out early maraders before 3:00. Still working on it, might just ditch it, might not... depends how much time this all takes me / what my eco is like / how bad the expanding part will be etc.
 
flibby said:
Heh, funny you should post that, I'm busy working on a Terran strat for Scrap Station vs. non Terran to basically lift off and fly to the island and go for either a Banshee rush or Medivac drop, basically to help me counter a 6 pool / 2gate or any kind of proxy, I'm just still working out if it's viable enough as it does hurt eco.
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Someone once lifted off and went to the Island against me. I'm Zerg so I floated an overlord over, whilst sending a drone around all the open expansions. Lets just say it was not a hard game for me to win.

The time it takes for you to lift off land and start building puts you so so far behind that your opponent will actually struggle to lose.

The only lift off/land cheese I have seen that is even remotely possibly viable is on Metalopolis or possibly Kulas) and even then it relies on your opponent not scouting you until late. Actually if you lifted off in Kulas and went to either the gold, or better still the blocked in Naturals you might be able to do something with it... But that being said you will still be behind economically and your base will eventually be spotted.
 
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kar said:
This wont work versus protoss, I mean first thing I would expect when I arrived at your base at around 11 supply, is for you to have lifted off and gone to the gold expansion. If I didn't find you there, I'd then assume you'd gone island and were going banshees. Two gates and a robo will destroy this with no trouble at all. And it will be nigh on impossible for you to expand from that position.
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Isn't lifting off too hurtful to your economy? No reason you can't expand to the gold anyway.
 
platypus said:
Isn't lifting off too hurtful to your economy? No reason you can't expand to the gold anyway.
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I think one viable approach is to mine until you have 400 mins, lift off with whatever scvs you can to the island and send the others to the gold and do a fast expand. Build your expo cc somewhere near the gold but not on it, then when it's finished pick it up drop it down. Then turtle turtle turtle.

If you can last to the 8 minute mark you are going to have a ridiculous economy and be able to pretty much run amok.
 
ggs marge, how on earth were you getting so many resources without an expansion?

I need to learn to adapt more and not panic build the same units whenever i'm in combat D:
 
Streeteh said:
ggs marge, how on earth were you getting so many resources without an expansion?

I need to learn to adapt more and not panic build the same units whenever i'm in combat D:
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I had a gold expansion hidden away. :D

I was expecting stalkers so I built siege tanks which I think counter them quite well in siege mode. I was so lucky I wasn't killed off but a single cloaked banshee saved me and at that point I had tons of minerals and gas so I just pumped out loads non stop!
 
You could tell i was a noob when you attacked me with cloaked flying thingies... and i realized i had forgotten to build that building that lets me build observers.

Whoops! That was half my drones gone D:

It's the little things like learning to always have an observer nearby to pick out cloaked dudes that i miss, which ultimately screw me over.

I'd say we're relatively evenly matched, we should do a 2v2 against some other noobs at some point and see how we fare :D I much prefer working with people i know than playing against them.
 
Meh, I'm winning games quite comfortably but my macro is getting worse :/ My average unspent resources seems to be on the rise, possibly due to my desire to NOT queue units.

Also, many thanks to flibby for his video post a few pages back. Very helpful :p
 
Gizka what race are you? What build are you using? How many gateways/barracks etc. Maybe you need more production buildings if you're constantly making units but still getting too much money.
 
H2F Scott said:
Gizka what race are you? What build are you using? How many gateways/barracks etc. Maybe you need more production buildings if you're constantly making units but still getting too much money.
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Im Terran and generally go for a 2/3 barracks with early marine push then transition into Tanks/Vikings, seems to be working thus far. Last game I had 4 barracks, 3 starports and a factory (which wasn't used to its full potential admittedly). Also, in this game I messed up on vespene and didn't assign three workers to it, so had one on two geysers for about 90 seconds which is always fun :p

Think thats were the problems lie, my mineral count rockets with MULEs then I forget about gas as I *attempt* to micro marines :p
 
I find this odd. When I was in the gold league all I played were Platinum players, then I got promoted and I am now only playing gold players! :s
 
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