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New card 480 gtx or 5870?
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And become very hot and very loud.
The GTX470's make no sense. You could save £30 quid and get a 5850 and clock that for better results, or pay another £50 and have a HD5870.
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ATI fanboi
Ended up going for an Asus v1 reference 5870. £300 delivered, new, with the 3 year warranty.
I was going to go for the the v2, but I've heard its a bit louder and it'll be a tight fit in my K62 because of the extra space needed for the power connectors. I worked it out and it'll end up being longer than the standard ref design. The v1 ref looks really, really nice though so thats a plus
it has voltage tweak as well anyways if i need the extra power although wont clock as high/well as the v2 obviously.
I decided against the 480 due to the heat and power consumption. I don't pay for the electricity so I need to be more considerate in that area with what I buy. I also needed a reality check and thought at 1680x1050, do I really need a 480...not really.
I was going to go for the the v2, but I've heard its a bit louder and it'll be a tight fit in my K62 because of the extra space needed for the power connectors. I worked it out and it'll end up being longer than the standard ref design. The v1 ref looks really, really nice though so thats a plus
it has voltage tweak as well anyways if i need the extra power although wont clock as high/well as the v2 obviously.I decided against the 480 due to the heat and power consumption. I don't pay for the electricity so I need to be more considerate in that area with what I buy. I also needed a reality check and thought at 1680x1050, do I really need a 480...not really.
1) the difference is only £20 more than the 5850 and £65 less than the 5870
2)
even read this?
http://techreport.com/articles.x/19404/10
power usage between 470 and 5870 is less than 12w on idle and load and noise difference is 3dB at idle and less than 1dB at load
and finally the next page puts the 470 at the same average performance level as the 5870 for a lot less
Stock GPU load temps from that Link.
Note the prices. I can get a HD5850 for £190 and a GTX470 for £225.
^ don't get what you're trying to do
the 470 still has a better average performance than the 5850 by a good I'd guess 8-9fps which is about a 23.5% increase
last time I checked £35 is less than £44.65 (23.5% of £190) so the 470 has a better performance/price than the 5850
the 470 still has a better average performance than the 5850 by a good I'd guess 8-9fps which is about a 23.5% increase
last time I checked £35 is less than £44.65 (23.5% of £190) so the 470 has a better performance/price than the 5850
Is the 5850 also a poor card ?, I do not get what you are saying. Or is it just your old ATI die hard view ?
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You seem an ardent ATI supporter from what i have just read(Nothing wrong if that is what you prefer)
My view on it is, having owned both cards(5850 and a 470) In real life gaming there is nothing between them. In my view the 5870 is the odd card here, as i would not pay for it over a 470/5850 for the performance increase. If i was going to pay more i would go for the 480.
But saying all that i would not mind trying a 5870, I am in two minds wether to go on to the MM and see if anyone fancies a trade for my 470 for a 5870.... Oh i dont know
My view on it is, having owned both cards(5850 and a 470) In real life gaming there is nothing between them. In my view the 5870 is the odd card here, as i would not pay for it over a 470/5850 for the performance increase. If i was going to pay more i would go for the 480.
But saying all that i would not mind trying a 5870, I am in two minds wether to go on to the MM and see if anyone fancies a trade for my 470 for a 5870.... Oh i dont know
how is the GTX 470 a poor card?
on average it equals the performance of a 5870 for a lot less money, it is only slightly noisier, it only draws a little bit more power, it beats the 5850 for a little bit more
and it kicks them both to the ground when they are in dual GPU situations
on average it equals the performance of a 5870 for a lot less money, it is only slightly noisier, it only draws a little bit more power, it beats the 5850 for a little bit more
and it kicks them both to the ground when they are in dual GPU situations
For me the question really comes down to features and as such I chose a 5870 for Eyefinity on one card. In your position I would choose the GTX 480 as I find nvidia's drivers to be better and it is the faster card. Heat and noise dont really bother me as my PC is under the desk and i game in headphones.
You seem an ardent ATI supporter from what i have just read(Nothing wrong if that is what you prefer)
My view on it is, having owned both cards(5850 and a 470) In real life gaming there is nothing between them. In my view the 5870 is the odd card here, as i would not pay for it over a 470/5850 for the performance increase. If i was going to pay more i would go for the 480.
But saying all that i would not mind trying a 5870, I am in two minds wether to go on to the MM and see if anyone fancies a trade for my 470 for a 5870.... Oh i dont know
I'm saying if your looking to save some money by overcloking and want something cool and quite then it would make sense to start a card that's cheaper, cooler, quieter and considered good for overclocking.
If you have read some of my post I'm sure you know my feelings about the way both company's do things
But that doesn't get in the way of me seeing things how they are. If people want to call me a fan boy for pointing out that something is utter rubbish, then that's fine.Read thread, see post 22.
So a GTX470 is equal to a HD5870 Hmm... I take it you have never used either.
And will proceed to scour the internet to provide me with proof that your right.
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Oi oi, not in these forums !
your post says 'they get very hot and loud'
did you not read the review?
or was the fanboy voice getting to you again?
I don't agree with the heat thing, I'm running my GTX 470 @850MHz and 1087mv and it won't go over 80C no matter what game I play
I'd say a 243MHz (~40%) overclock is pretty good on a 607MHz card, wouldn't you?
now what kind of overclock does your 5850 get?
can your 5850 run the Crysis GPU benchmark at 30fps average 21fps minimum with 1920x1200 and everything Very High 8xAA? or JC2 Dark tower bench everything completely maxed out at 38fps average?
^^ you're very Nvidia biased to the extreme, post some overclocked 470 benchmarks up at 1680x1050 and we will see what it has on a stock 480, put your money where your mouth is.
Try heaven and crysis for a start.
Regarding not exceeding 80C with 850 on the core, you must be running a fan profile that is maxing out or it's on 100%, or just talking ****
Try heaven and crysis for a start.
Regarding not exceeding 80C with 850 on the core, you must be running a fan profile that is maxing out or it's on 100%, or just talking ****
^^ you're very Nvidia biased to the extreme, post some overclocked 470 benchmarks up at 1680x1050 and we will see what it has on a stock 480, put your money where your mouth is.
Try heaven and crysis for a start.
Regarding not exceeding 80C with 850 on the core, you must be running a fan profile that is maxing out or it's on 100%, or just talking ****
I'll post some afterburner shots after the Crysis runs
Yes they are hot and loud and become even more so when you overclock them.
I will say that Fermi is joke on a PCB. And will go down as the worst GPU architecture in history.