life time sentence for persistant US drunk driver

America seriously needs to reconsider the way it uses imprisonment. They have an enormous prison population per capita and yet no evidence that their harsh punishments are detering criminals.

I bet the solution I proposed would work..

I mean, what harm can someone do if they're dead eh? :D
 
Sounds good to me, he is a repeat offender and obviously has been through the system 8 times before. Therefore the only way to stop him re offending is to lock him up.

But then I don't think we should have fixed sentences, you should be released when you are considered safe.



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because no celeb has had prison time for the first or second offence, let alone 9th.

Speaking from family experience, the prison system is a corrupt as it comes at the best of times, and such a system would lead to travestys of justice.


As for the sentence :eek:, absolutely inhumane. At least give him a figure. Say 10 years, not the rest of his life....
 
America seriously needs to reconsider the way it uses imprisonment. They have an enormous prison population per capita and yet no evidence that their harsh punishments are detering criminals.

The prison system is INCREDIBLY lucrative for some people, it won't be changing anytime soon.
 
Seems a bit harsh, as there is no "victim" only a potential one at some hypothetical accident in the future, which would at worst be a vehicular manslaughter.

I'd be more persuaded if there had been some kind of warning laid down at conviction number 8 - "do this again and we will lock you up for life". Sort of like an asbo but, you know, useful.
 
Its mostly a bad deal for the tax payers. Isnt there a medicine they give him that makes him sick when drinking alcohol, just keep him on parole and receiving that.

A year of prison costs something like 50k for all the staff and costs, obviously theres a better solution
 
if that's the case then that would be very harsh. But I can't see that in the news article?

It's just one comment from a lawyer says:-
Taylor said Stovall should have been given a spell in rehab rather than "ending his life."

Whilst the prosecutors are saying:-
'It's a big dodge to focus on the disease and not the crime,' said Bradley. 'It's a huge social excuse for dangerous conduct.
'If this guy was using a shotgun to shoot lights randomly around his neighbourhood I doubt we'd be getting criticized for the sentencing.
'In this case he's simply using his truck as his weapon.'

Doesn't strike me as rehabilitation is high on their agenda, but it's all assumption.
 
Drink driving is really bad over here, people have to drive to get to a bar in most places, but its just not as frowned upon as it is in britain. The wife couldnt believe the adverts on TV that get shown around xmas in the Uk about drink driving. People think nothing of having a skin full then driving home. Whats worrying for me is i might just meet one coming the other way one day.
 
I bet it wasn't just done as a punishment for him, can you imagine being a repeat drink driver over there now? knowing you could get life imprisonment might make the decision of having that extra drink a little easier to make :)
 
Right way of doing it, although tbh, hes going to be funded by tax-payers just to have 3 meals a day, have guards 24/7, not to mention the land being taken up and he'd eventually rot in prison.. I would personally just get it over with and get him executed in a humane manner If I were to set punishments..

I think there is no point in keeping someone in prison for longer than 20 years... as surely, if you manage to get out after 20 years, you won't get much out of your life anyways.

I think the same should be done for murder and manslaughter.

Death Row is actually a lot more expensive than life imprisonment.
 
Right way of doing it, although tbh, hes going to be funded by tax-payers just to have 3 meals a day, have guards 24/7, not to mention the land being taken up and he'd eventually rot in prison.. I would personally just get it over with and get him executed in a humane manner If I were to set punishments..

I think there is no point in keeping someone in prison for longer than 20 years... as surely, if you manage to get out after 20 years, you won't get much out of your life anyways.

I think the same should be done for murder and manslaughter.

Thankfully you don't set the punishments.
 
3.1% of the American population is in prison or on parole.

Americans, after 30 years, still think even even even harsher prison sentences are needed to curb their crime levels. In short, they're a bit daft and they vote for 'fail' policy time and time again - and suffer massive crime year after year ...

Unfortunately some on here won't believe this, especially the Daily Mail readers - but as much as it gnaws on your inner-caveman instincts, rehabilitation is and always has been much better for the population then 'lock them up for longer and chop off their nuts whilst you're at it'....

Also, again to much people's chargrin, the simple truth is a healthy social state does a great deal to curb crime. Simply put, if you couldn't afford to eat or feed your children, YOU would get so desperate you'd mug someone. The American voters don't really make the connection and just vote for lower tax constantly, therefore the social state virtually doesn't exist.. and funny enough those that start starving/can't afford a simple operation don't walk quietly into the night ..
 
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but it's all assumption.

Like so much news these days, it's hard to come to any informed descion on it.

It could simply mean they think he should have rehab again.

Americans, after 30 years, still think even even even harsher prison sentences are needed to curb their crime levels. In short, they're a bit daft and they vote for fail time and time again - and suffer massive crime year after year ...

IMO you need harsh prison sentences and an amazing rehabilitation service. Where you have a minimum sentence but no maximum for re-ofennders.
Not everyone can or should I say wants to be rehabilitated and if they keep re offending. Then they should be removed from society.
 
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Well he is 52. Maybe if he was younger the sentence would have been 20 years or something like that.

It does seem a bit harsh. But we don't know what help he was offered before so can't really judge.
 
The article doesn't say - but has he ever hurt anybody through all his drunk driving?

If not this is a stupid judgement, probably due to someone up for election soon, and will be reduced to 12 months after the election is over.
 
Just out of interest, what about if they steal on average £30 worth of stuff a month, and keeping them in prison costs £30,000 per year?

value of theft or crime has no bearing.
The chances are if you have a good rehabilitation service,. They could be rehabilitated. It usually through to drug problems or lack of job/education.

I have no qualms with a first rate prison education system.

trouble is most people have a problem with rehabilitation as they see it as a reward and also have problem with prison as it costs.
 
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