Roller or Paint Pod?

[Captain_Slick]

Don't buy your paint from Homebase / B&Q, find a Brewers or a local proper decorators shop the quality is so much better it'll be less work

What? How does buying the same product (granted they sell Crown Trade/McPherson etc which we don't) mean better quality?

Wth Dulux Trade they even use the same machines as the big sheds, because they're designed, installed and maintained BY Dulux.

As for the OP - buy a good quality roller/pad.

 

[matt_fsr]

On a side note, has anyone tried one of those all dancing all singing rollers from JML?

http://www.jmldirect.com/product.asp?pf_id=P3001&changecurrency=GBP

I've always wondered if they'd be any good!

I've got one - thought it'd be worth a punt for £20 where I got it from. The accessories with it are pretty useful if you dont have them already, for edging in and tight corners etc.

I'm not 100% decided on the roller itself though. Used it once, and I think it was an advantage - the best bit for me was the paint being in the roller, you dont need to bend down constantly to dip it in the paint tray, and yes, barely any splashes at all, and no spray off the roller.

Took blooming ages to clean it out though - definite downside! Took away a lot of the benefit of time saved by not bending down to the paint tray. My back says 'thank you' to JML though.

Coverage was acceptable, not perfect, but then again this was using cheapo white paint to undercoat, over not very even wall surfaces so its not a massive surprise. I'll use it again with better paint for the top coat and see how it does.

 

[FatBoyObese]

What? How does buying the same product (granted they sell Crown Trade/McPherson etc which we don't) mean better quality?
With Dulux Trade they even use the same machines as the big sheds, because they're designed, installed and maintained BY Dulux.

Ah yes...but... the own brand paint is lousy quality compared to the named brands.
Also the pigment quality of the base paint supplied to B&Q and the other sheds is not the same quality as the decorators outlets...that's how they can sell the paint cheaper than the outlets.
I have come to this conclusion after years of painting and decorating for a living.

 

[mark66]

Nice to see some advice coming in from the professionals

What is the deal with Paint Pads? A friend of mine tried them a few years ago and he swears by them and will never use a roller again. I tried one and it just left scrape lines in the paint?!

Roller for me so far.

 

[Russinating]

You might end up buying more, 2.5 ltrs is not much, 5ltrs would do a double bedroom with 2 good coats, is 2.5 ltrs going to be enough? if not you should get another and mix the two.

Yeah it'll be fine, it's only to do one wall of a small bathroom, about 2m wide and normal height.

 

[Psypher5]

are those pads anygood?

uni summer job atm we just use a set of rollers and cut in with brushes, jobs a goodun

 

[manisinghb]

I just finished my painting last month and was thinking of the paint pod too. My friend is a decorator and builder along with his father in the local council and knows his stuff, STAY AWAY from it, he said

The biggest issue with it from what I have been told by countless builders and decorators is that the paint will eventually bloke up the tube that sends the paint from the pod to the roller, and cleaning it will eventually become a bigger chore than rollers. Stick to rollers and pads, the original way is the best, trust me.

 

[manisinghb]

i personally would use a good harris roller and not a paint pod thingy.

harris are very good and dont splatter like the cheap nasty rollers from b&q.

i have this set and it is very very good.

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/27611/Decorating-Sundries/Rollers-Trays/Harris-Decorators-Kit-14Pcs

well worth the £14.99 and have had the set for a year now and still using the same rollers.

I also agree with schizo..I have a harris set and they are very very reliable with a perfect finish..

 

[MiNxYyY]

On a side note, has anyone tried one of those all dancing all singing rollers from JML?

http://www.jmldirect.com/product.asp?pf_id=P3001&changecurrency=GBP

I've always wondered if they'd be any good!

Yep ive used one and they are very good.

Ive also used the paint sprayer pro for a bedroom, that was awesome.

 

[setter]

As maccapacca states....90% prep 10% paint.

Rub down woodwork with fine sandpaper, undercoat using a quality paint, ie not B&Q basics, and then use a quality gloss.....apply these with a good quality brush, I use Purdy brushes, and work the paint in, ie don't load the brush up as the paint will run and sag.

Top Tip.....when glossing doors use a microfibre mini roller to apply the paint.....gets a super smooth finish with no brush marks, uses less paint, 10x quicker and reduces the chances of a thick edge

Sound advice, the purdy brushes are expensive, but theyre really worth it in the long run, also love the microfibre rollers, been working at a new nursing home lately, (hundreds of satin finished doors), cut the panel mouldings in and roll the rails, stiles and panels. Saves a vast amount of time.

 

[Captain_Slick]

Ah yes...but... the own brand paint is lousy quality compared to the named brands.
Also the pigment quality of the base paint supplied to B&Q and the other sheds is not the same quality as the decorators outlets...that's how they can sell the paint cheaper than the outlets.
I have come to this conclusion after years of painting and decorating for a living.

What?

The bases supplied to B&Q are EXACTLY the same as those supplied to decorators outlets and I have that on authority from Dulux themselves. Heck, we've even had someone return mixed paint FROM one of our local decorators outlets to us (they didn't get a refund - natch) and the batch number matched one of our tins.

 

[Castiel]

I got a paint pod for the grand total of £1.38 this morning in fact.

Dunno if I will use it, but I was getting some bolts and stuff and seen that you got the pod free with any dulux item, so we bought a dulux taster pot of paint for £1.38 and got the Pod free.

Bargain.

 

[setter]

One thing i dont like about the pod systems is the lack of colours, theres only so many and they come in packs that are compatible with the pod system. With the conventional brush/roller you have access to the entire bs4800 colour range.

 

[Captain_Slick]

One thing i dont like about the pod systems is the lack of colours, theres only so many and they come in packs that are compatible with the pod system. With the conventional brush/roller you have access to the entire bs4800 colour range.

Duuuuhhhh. Why would they make a PaintPod contraption that would work with any paint when they themselves make paint? They're a business... businesses tend to want to make money.

 

[setter]

Yes, of course they want to make money, but unfortunately as it stands at the minute, the range of colours for use in the pod systems is extremely limited. Unlike the thousands of colour choices you can have in a standard 2,5/5/10 litre tin, dulux manufacture this paint pod gimmick but at the same time the core of their business comes from professional decorators, professionals tend to buy products in bulk which is where paint companys get most of their sales from, the pod system is mainly aimed at the diy market, as a profesional painter and decorator i wouldnt ever consider using such a pointless contraption.

 

[FatBoyObese]

What?

The bases supplied to B&Q are EXACTLY the same as those supplied to decorators outlets and I have that on authority from Dulux themselves. Heck, we've even had someone return mixed paint FROM one of our local decorators outlets to us (they didn't get a refund - natch) and the batch number matched one of our tins.

OK so the own brand B&Q paint is the same as Dulux paint?
I think not.
I paint and decorate for a living and I can assure you that the quality is not the same at all. The B&Q own brand paint I have had supplied by customers is a lot thinner in consistency and normally requires at least 1 coat more than the Dulux paint to achieve the same effect.

 

[RDM]

OK so the own brand B&Q paint is the same as Dulux paint?

I think the point he was trying to make was that Dulux paint is Dulux paint regardless of where you buy it from. Not that B&Q own brand is the same as Dulux.

I believe though that Crown make B&Q paint these days. Not that it means they use the same recipe.

 

[FatBoyObese]

Then in fairness he needs to read my post correctly as I was on about own brand paint not Dulux paint

 

[Maccapacca]

What would confirm it to me if there was trade vans outside homebase loading up their paintpods and homebase paints, there's not very many, most are outside brewers loading up brushes rollers and johnstones paint.

 

[TS7]

I've heard it's a bit of a gimmick, I wouldn't bother.