Why do people pointlessly drive slowly?

He was not in the wrong. You are!

The highway-code states you should only pull out when its clear and safe to do so and you won't cause other drivers to have to slow down.

Your a new driver, let this be a lesson because the next time the person you pull out on might not have quick enough reactions to slow down in time and he will either t-bone you or drive right up your chuff.

Only pull out if you can do so with effecting anyone elses driving, so what if he is speeding, you are not the law, if he wants to speed he can do so, does not make it right for you to pull out and possibly cause an accident.

... Not always possible though is it.

I'm sure the highway code mentions something about speed limits too.
 
It bores me, the constant whining about "making progress" there is no law that states "failure to make progress". There are speed limits both maximum and minimum, the only place there is a minimum speed limit is on a motorway.

If someone wants to drive at 30 on a NSL single carriageway so be it, I never see them never get stuck behind them and I live in the country surrounded by B roads, the vast majority of people drive at 40+.

The vast majority of people on this fora drive above the speed limit and seem to get annoyed when someone else drives within the limit and holds them up, boo bloody hoo get over it. You may come across me on the roads, I'll be doing 50ish until someone tailgates me then I will get slower and slower until the road provides a chance to overtake then I will ensure you don't get that chance as I will be far down the road till you catch up. Yes its pathetic, I don't do it dangerously if anyone gets too upset I will let them past, but it provides light relief on the commute home.
You've managed to both castigate all the speed freaks in this forum whilst also ruining any attempt to take the higher ground by detailing your own unsafe driving.

I'm not even angry, that's just impressive.
 
... Not always possible though is it.

I'm sure the highway code mentions something about speed limits too.

What's not always possible? Pulling out only when you're not going to cause another road user to change course or speed?

That is always possible - simple, you wait for a break in traffic or for someone to flash you out.

In reality, that could be some time - and many people do try to force their way out. But don't pretend that gives you the moral right of way, and don't be surprised when someone crashes into you either.

And a couple of points from the highway code some members might like to read ;)

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Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.

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Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.
 
If someone wants to drive at 30 on a NSL single carriageway so be it,

And here we have a prime example of the attitude which is causing threads like these to appear. The selfish **** you attitude from drivers that don't give a toss about anyone but their own pathetic selves. Undoubtedly the same people that happily meander into the path of rapidly approaching cars in outer lanes on DCWs and motorways just to teach them a lesson, or the deeply sad people that flash their lights and wave like demented fools if they see someone overtaking, even if it's a perfectly safe manoeuvre.

Seriously, what on earth are you doing on a motors forum?
 
You may come across me on the roads, I'll be doing 50ish until someone tailgates me then I will get slower and slower until the road provides a chance to overtake then I will ensure you don't get that chance as I will be far down the road till you catch up. Yes its pathetic, I don't do it dangerously if anyone gets too upset I will let them past, but it provides light relief on the commute home.

Ah so you annoy the person behind by slowing down and once the opportunity arises for the car behind to overtake, you speed up. Please tell me you allow the car to get side by side and then you speed up, go on, make my day Ring Peace :D
 
And here we have a prime example of the attitude which is causing threads like these to appear. The selfish **** you attitude from drivers that don't give a toss about anyone but their own pathetic selves. Undoubtedly the same people that happily meander into the path of rapidly approaching cars in outer lanes on DCWs and motorways just to teach them a lesson, or the deeply sad people that flash their lights and wave like demented fools if they see someone overtaking, even if it's a perfectly safe manoeuvre.

Seriously, what on earth are you doing on a motors forum?

So which is more selfish, the people that drive at cautious, yet reasonable pace, or the assclowns that get 1 inch from their bumper in a vain attempt to make them speed up, risking theirs and other road users lives.
 
In which case you'll only be doing a few mph below the limit in reality, and nothing in this thread really applies to you.

I'm not so sure. My car is really old and I suspect it over-reads by far more than the standard 10%. You know those 30 signs that light up if you're driving too fast? I can go past those at an indicated 35 and still not set them off.

On the plus side, I will probably never get a speeding ticket as long as I own this car (touch wood). :p
 
So which is more selfish, the people that drive at cautious, yet reasonable pace, or the assclowns that get 1 inch from their bumper in a vain attempt to make them speed up, risking theirs and other road users lives.

Why does it matter? Tailgating is bad.. we accept this. Most of us also accept that driving at 30 on an NSL road is usually unreasonably slow and also bad. Surely there's a happy medium where we can all drive at a comfortable range of 57-60mph to account for those drivers uncomfortable with doing the speed limit. ;)
 
As a different viewpoint to the Overtaking thread -

Why do people drive at 40mph everywhere? :(

Single and dual carriageways, straight and twisty road plus when they eventually hit a 30mph zone they don't slow down :confused:.

Admittedly some speed up to 50 on a straight single road but do they not remember the limit is 60? and what's with doing 60 on a dual carriageway!!

If they think 40 is fuel efficient it isn't most cars are most efficient at 55 but driving technique usually blows that out of the water. If people are worried about using fuel get a more efficient car.

Andi.

They're either old or women

/thread
 
They're the people who would always just find a speed where the scalextric car wouldn't fall off the track.

We need to find a way to let go of our trigger completely just before they get to a corner so they crash.
 
Why does it matter? Tailgating is bad.. we accept this. Most of us also accept that driving at 30 on an NSL road is usually unreasonably slow and also bad. Surely there's a happy medium where we can all drive at a comfortable range of 57-60mph to account for those drivers uncomfortable with doing the speed limit. ;)
To be fair, the guy did actually talk about "driving at 30 on a NSL single carriageway . . . in the country" - in that situation the NSL is going to be 60mph but that may not be a particularly safe or sensible speed, therefore 57-60mph may well not be within "a comfortable range".

I don't agree with people deliberately driving so as to inconvenience or annoy other road users as Ring Peace seems to suggest he does; it is indeed selfish and stupid regardless of whether it is by driving slowly, by tailgating or by overtaking in a stupid and/or aggressive manner.
 
There's got to be a case where you could possibly be charged with "driving without due care and attention" for going slow without a good reason.
Imagine a line of people held hands in a chain and walked slowly up a busy pavement so no one could get passed them without stepping out onto a busy street. How long would it be before someone voiced their annoyance, or broke up the chain. It'd be inconsiderate to do that on a crowded pavement, so why isn't it inconsiderate to do exactly the same thing on a public highway in a car?
I always try to maintain nsl on most journeys, and only slow down if I feel like it when no one else is behind me. If someone does come up behind me and can't immediately pass I will speed up to NSL until either they pass or turn off or something.
 
Inconsiderate is not the same thing as illegal. And the government likes slow drivers because they think it depresses accident statistics, so they're not going to make slow driving illegal.
 
try getting to the other side of town in great yarmouth when tourist season is on, slow drivers are nothing compared to horse and carts and this slow arsed road train.

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One of those damn things in Bowness, I wouldn't mind but it doesn't actually go anywhere you can't walk in less time.

I've roared pas the thing once, I don't think I've ever been the subject of so much disapproval.
 
To be fair, the guy did actually talk about "driving at 30 on a NSL single carriageway . . . in the country" - in that situation the NSL is going to be 60mph but that may not be a particularly safe or sensible speed, therefore 57-60mph may well not be within "a comfortable range"..

I was hardly being serious with that last sentence.

Although I might point out that there are very few 60mph NSL roads not in the country.. :p
 
There are plenty of 60mph limit roads where you'd have to be crazy to drive at 60. And yet you always get some bozo hooning up behind you who wants to do just that.
 
What's not always possible? Pulling out only when you're not going to cause another road user to change course or speed?

That is always possible - simple, you wait for a break in traffic or for someone to flash you out.

In reality, that could be some time - and many people do try to force their way out. But don't pretend that gives you the moral right of way, and don't be surprised when someone crashes into you either.

...Its not always possible. If you pull out of a junction that appears to be clear and someone travelling at way over the speed limit comes around the corner/into view as you are joining the road they are on they are likely to have to slow down or change course.

This would be entirely down to them speeding and not really much you can do about that as it wouldn't have happened if they were travelling within the speed limits.

This obviously isn't the same as 'muscling into the line of traffic' which I've never done and surprisingly never let anyone out that tries it by edging forward at junctions etc.

If I can wait, so can they.

Don't rely on being 'flashed' out either as that shouldn't really exist in this instance as you should know what with reading the highway code a lot ;) :D
 
Good point, I'd forgotten that scenario. Though in that situation I'd still floor it as soon as I noticed someone coming up fast behind me, which I'd wager most drivers out there wouldn't.

And yes, technically flashing is only alerting other drivers to your presence, but colloquially it's become a method for inviting someone in front of you - hence I said 'flash you out' not 'flash you' ;)

And don't mock, I nearly bought the latest version in WHSmiths yesterday. But I got put off 'cause it said it included bits on how to pass my test.. which just sounded like a waste of money! :)
 
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