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SkeeterUK

SkeeterUK

SkeeterUK

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Whats your opinion "Going over speed limits"

Snowdog was discussing cars today with me and was saying he wants a faster car and will go faster than speed limits. Now to me this is dangerous and silly as he wants speed too much imo.

Do you agree with me that its dangerous, irrisposible and can cause accidents more. Or do you agree with snowdog that meh screw police and go faster than speed limits and just do what u can to get to places quicker and screw everyone else.

Personally im against speeding cos i been in quite a few close calls vs cars speeding compared to safe drivers that dont exceed the speed limit.
 
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Oh one other thing, he says cos he is NL its very different due to other side of road, higher speed limits etc. But come on driving is driving its only a few tweaks over there compared to here aint it.
 
I can already go 4x over the speed limit if I wanted to in built up area's, I'd want a faster car to have more fun in it and for the rush... Have you forgot that most cars on the road will easily reach 90-100mph ?

Now to you it is dangerous because despite being 26 or 27 whatever you are, you have no experience driving a car whatsoever, your only experience is cycling and because IN THE UK with little to no cycle culture you've been driven of your bike.

I can accept some people saying something I do is dangerous, but sorry ,from you I can't accept it especially since you don't even have a license while I partly earn my bread driving and drive about 5-6x more miles than the average driver does in a particular time like a year...

You also have no experience driving abroad, I've been to my family in Poland myself a couple of times and I'm used to just setting cruise control at 100 mph in Germany and drive along. I will NEVER agree with an NSL of 70 mph ( like in the UK) or 76 mph ( here) in the NL on motorways, it's ridiculously slow from my limited experience.

Finally, many people here will believe the law is holy but I'm not one of them and will probably never be. Many people here on OcUK think I'm crazy and this thread will probably end up being closed, but I do not accept being told how to drive from people on a forum abroad or even someone who has never even driven a car or even barely sat in one.


Now don't get me wrong, I mostly drive by the limit, especially considering I need my license for work, but most people around here do at least 10 kph over the limit, far faster outside the '''randstad'' ( build up area where I live), most drivers there are definitely not following the limit and I'm just pooting along on the left lane with the other traffic. Finally, I doubt there is anyone that ALWAYS abides the limit, most people do a couple of miles over every day for a little bit.
 
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Been on a bike and almost run over i think i can actually say somit about it mate i got a dodgy thumb to prove it from the accident.

I am a passenger in cars in the front seat so i can say somit about how drivers are i mean im right next to em, true i aint drove yet but so i can still have a valid option. Also have been to NL three times and seen what its like. From what i saw lots of people are good safe drivers just like UK so ur not representative of NL drivers.

Thats all i have to say i guess on the matter i will let the discussion flow and pop by now and then see what the general opinion is.
 
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Been on a bike and almost run over i think i can actually say somit about it mate i got a dodgy thumb to prove it from the accident.
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Why do you think this has been caused by someone speeding ? From what you said in the past the person didn't see you and see your arm that you wanted to turn and hit you because they didn't think you wanted to turn right ( correct me if I'm wrong)...
I am a passenger in cars in the front seat so i can say somit about how drivers are i mean im right next to em, true i aint drove yet but so i can still have a valid option. Also have been to NL three times and seen what its like. From what i saw lots of people are good safe drivers just like UK so ur not representative of NL drivers.
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You've been to Amsterdam and area, so you think you can say how it is here on the motorways or outside the Randstad ( outside Holland generally, in the more rural area's of the Neth's) ? Also how do you know what speed the cars were driving at if you don't drive, most people I know judge the speed only by the sound or the acceleration/g forces, but have no judgment of speed at all.

You remind me of a mate who goes bonkers if I accelerate hard within the speed limit, saying I'm going to fast, but fell asleep when I did 100 mph in Germany and didn't even notice I was going quite fast.

How often are you a passenger? During the week I'm in my car at least 3-4 HOURS per day... I have a 3 hour shift of a TNT post pickup service every day...

Didn't you just call people who speed Removed? Odd, 2 out of 3 drivers on the motorway I saw on my holiday must have been Removed.

Now fair enough in the past I have been a **** sometimes and doing silly speeds I now regret, but I still think the speed limit is too low now, especially when you're in your car or your companies car for at least 3 hours per day it gets annoying having to watch the speedo all the time.
 
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Came from the ferry to amsterdam went on a motorway iirc in a coach. From where i watched the traffic etc.

And lets turn that argument around, you been to london and you think you know all of the UK's driving habits? I live in the UK and everyones different so if you saw someone theres no reason everyone else is the same. So you generalizing your country by your standards i just dont get.

Passenger well since im older than you and been in cars almost since i was 5 and im 28 now well you can figure out how many hours i have been a passenger.
 
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Came from the ferry to amsterdam went on a motorway iirc in a coach. From where i watched the traffic etc.
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You've proven my point exactly.
And lets turn that argument around, you been to london and you think you know all of the UK's driving habits? I live in the UK and everyones different so if you saw someone theres no reason everyone else is the same. So you generalizing your country by your standards i just dont get.
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You were commenting about MY driving (here)... Not driving in the UK. I have little interest in coming to the UK anyhow.
Passenger well since im older than you and been in cars almost since i was 5 and im 28 now well you can figure out how many hours i have been a passenger.
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I seriously doubt you've been in a car longer, even as a passenger than me, but I can't be arsed to explain, because I feel this has little to do with the discussion, being a passenger does not contribute that much to knowing about driving at all, it can, but only if you're paying attention on certain things and I doubt you were.

Every single one I've spoken to from my mates has said it themselves before they had any lessons they didn't understand that much why I liked a spirited drive once in a while, after they got their license, they fully understood why.
 
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Erm the discussion is just about your speeding nothing else so keep to the point (yes we both kinda swayed but your pushing it more) and dont sway with my experiences etc its about you.

And i didnt prove your point at all.

My point about habits was that you seem to think you drive like every Dutch person but you don't i don't see how you can make that statement which is why i brought it up. And it is partially valid due to you saying all dutch drive fast and ignore the speed limits.

So lets get back on topic, with what was said in OP.
 
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Erm the discussion is just about your speeding nothing else so keep to the point (yes we both kinda swayed but your pushing it more) and dont sway with my experiences etc its about you.
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The point it, you have little experience to comment.

And i didnt prove your point at all.
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Yes you did, watching motorway traffic from a coach side window does not mean you know how people drive here, especially because my point is people outside of Holland in the rest of the Neths on the motorways mostly drive a little faster, you've never been outside of Holland or the Randstad.

My point about habits was that you seem to think you drive like every Dutch person but you don't i don't see how you can make that statement which is why i brought it up. And it is partially valid due to you saying all dutch drive fast and ignore the speed limits.
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Every Dutch person? I Said 2/3rd people outside the Randstad ( where the majority of people live, but still a small part of the country). That is nowhere near ''all dutch''. I am simply driving along in the left lane traffic, which is admittedly often above the speed limit, but I can't really do silly speeds because of traffic and have to just drive as the rest. Most the car drivers are in the left lane doing slightly over the limit though.

2 examples of articles ( ofc. they are dutch and not english, use babelfish if you care) are:
http://www.rtvnh.nl/nieuws/index.asp?newsid=110709&tijdlijn=1 ( 4800 out of 8400 motorists caught speeding a speed trap)
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/...eerscontroles__.html?sn=binnenland,buitenland ( only 48% of the drivers think speed traps on motorways serve any purpose)

But with a little longer I can probably fill a page of articles about it.
 
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Well you can quote me if you want but i wont be replying anymore in this topic as i just wanted hear people options and maybe see what you say to them in responce to see how the different views are discussed. Not to get in a quote war as you seem to be wanting to chop my posts up and misquote them.
 
I break the speed limit all the time, because I know when it's safe to speed, how much I can exceed the speed limit by, and when it isn't safe to speed, and also when it is safer to go below the speed limit due to conditions.
 
Snowdog is an accident waiting to happen and has been ever since he started posting here. He lives in his own little non conformist dream world.
 
only 48% of the drivers think speed traps on motorways serve any purpose
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Or conversely, the majority of drivers think speed traps on motorways DO serve a purpose.

You ought to be careful slinging statistics about, as they often get flung back at you.
 
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