What is the highest fluoride toothpaste available?

Castiel said:
I know that their is no evidence of flouridated drinking water being harmful in any way, but should we really be adding anything to our drinking water supply.
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Yet you then followed spending 2 pages bastardising the thread, taking it off topic, and making it an ethical question regarding water supply, and nothing to do with the OP's toothpaste question. Following by considering the IQ of your customers in B&Q, to suggesting that people should have a majority vote if they wanted it or not.

Frequently taking topics completely offtopic for the sence of debating ethical choice. I find it irritating.
 
One More Solo said:
In the shops obviously, not prescription.

Cheers.
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You could always purchase some rat poison / insecticide and it add to your existing tooth-paste. You'd have the best teeth in the land (allegedly) but you might end up dead. I would hazard a guess that the rat poison Sodium Fluoride would be a lot cheaper than the makes-your-teeth-wonderful-sodium-fluoride.
 
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Hikari Kisugi said:
Yet you then followed spending 2 pages bastardising the thread, taking it off topic, and making it an ethical question regarding water supply, and nothing to do with the OP's toothpaste question. Following by considering the IQ of your customers in B&Q, to suggesting that people should have a majority vote if they wanted it or not.
Frequently taking topics completely offtopic for the sence of debating ethical choice. I find it irritating.
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The thread was already off topic before I joined. I simply commented on the topic at hand.

The customers at B&Q are not mine, I have little or nothing to do with B&Q, so read the posts correctly if I were you.

People making supercilious judgements without actually having the facts is irritating.
 
Captain_Slick said:
The majority of scientists and dentists do agree, that's my point. It's not as muddled as your making it out to be. In countries with poor dental health or high levels of cavities fluoride in the drinking water is beneficial. That's scientific fact and that's why it's added to our water (or was). In the US it's added because many people there can't afford dental care.
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Ireland, 73% fluoridated since the 1960’s, has a higher tooth decay rate than five other European countries that don’t fluoridate the water, according to the June 30, 2001, Irish Independent. The Irish are also fluoride saturated; but tooth decay is still rampant in under-privileged areas of Ireland, they report.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/fluoride-in-our-water-are-we-brushing-with-danger-381516.html


There's a growing amount of evidence linking fluoride to cancer, osteoporosis and genetic damage. Most governments in Europe have banned it, yet Ireland continues to add tooth-preserving acid to the public water supply. Gemma O'Doherty reports

Water fluoridation was once hailed as the saviour of our children's teeth. But since it was introduced four decades ago, it has been abandoned by almost every country in Europe. Everywhere, that is, except Ireland.

As evidence emerged linking it to cancer, osteoporosis and genetic damage, government after government condemned the practice of adding tooth-preserving acid to the public water supply as dangerous and unethical.

During the '70s and '80s, Sweden, Norway and Finland banned water fluoridation because its long term health and environmental effects were insufficiently known.

In 1975, Germany rejected it as ``foreign to nature, unnecessary, inefficient, irresponsible and harmful to the environment.''....

In 1977, Denmark rejected fluoridation because ``no adequate studies had been carried out on the long-term effect on human beings.''

In 1980, the Chief of Public Health in France declared it ``too dangerous''.

More recently, in 1996, 25 out of 26 councils in Northern Ireland voted against fluoridation of their drinking water.

In the UK, 10% of drinking water is fluoridated. Recent plans to extend the programme have been postponed following new research presented to the Ministry of Health on the medical side effects....

There was also evidence that fluoride could actually lead to tooth disfigurement through fluorosis, a mottling or staining of the teeth that occurs when too much of the chemical is present in the body. Dentists here say up to 40% of Irish people suffer from dental fluorosis, although no research has been carried out to support their claims.

In 1995, however, the American Dental Association found that up to 80% of children living in fluoridated areas in the US and Canada had the condition. When this study was published, Canadian dental authorities conceded that fluoride could lead to bone and tooth destruction and damage overall health....

...Some went even further. Dr Harry Limeback, Professor of Dentistry at Toronto University and consultant to the Canadian Dental Authority, claimed that water fluoridation had actually contributed to the birth of the multi-million pound cosmetic dentistry industry. He claimed that more money was now being spent treating dental fluorosis than would be spent on dental cavities if water were not fluoridated.
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I laugh at these guys here trying to argue the case for putting poison in the tap water. Hey it is only 1000ppm, over 50 years, no worries.

Seriously though there is just no need to ADD fluoride to the tap water. Did you know that when they add it to the tap water it gets delivered from a chemical company, it is in a big container and has to be kept in its own room, it is labelled a poison, with a skull and bones on it. Go to your local water treatment plant and ask them to see the fluoride container. Even being in the same room as it, gives you a mild cough, while you are in there.

There was a youtube video of a visit as i have described above going around a while ago, i have been looking for it.
 
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groen said:
I laugh at these guys here trying to argue the case for putting poison in the tap water. Hey it is only 1000ppm, over 50 years, no worries.
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:rolleyes:
everything a darn poison do you not know this or just being silly. What do you think medication is, they are all poisons. Just as small quantities they have beneficial side effects we use.
Just makes you look silly banging on about adding poisons and such like.

tooth decay is one of a few remaining illnesses in developed countries affecting 60-90% of the population.

groen said:
Did you know that when they add it to the tap water it gets delivered from a chemical company, it is in a big container and has to be kept in its own room, it is labelled a poison, with a skull and bones on it. for it.
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And?
That means nothing. Usual CT rubbish. It's in a warning container, wow really. Luckily we aren't putting a spoon in it and eating it.
Again do you realise everything is a poison.
 
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groen said:
I laugh at these guys here trying to argue the case for putting poison in the tap water. Hey it is only 1000ppm, over 50 years, no worries.
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You're kidding right? The water supply if fluroide is added would be around 1ppm, not 1000ppm as you are suggestion. 1 part per million.

So keep laughing groan.
 
groen said:
Did you know that when they add it to the tap water it gets delivered from a chemical company, it is in a big container and has to be kept in its own room, it is labelled a poison, with a skull and bones on it.
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What about the chlorine in your water supply, does that worry you too? Or would the addition of fluoride be the only thing that would concern you?
Is you water fluroidated Groen? Do you actually know? What region do you live in?
Do you drink chlorinated water currently?
 
I don't drink the tap water and i have not for many years.

You guys are mad, arguing the case for putting a poison in the tap water, maybe too much fluoride over the years has destroyed your cognitive pathways.

What would you say if they put cyanide in the water at super low quantities saying that it was good for the skin ?

They actually want to start adding lithium to the water, japan has been talking about it. Why do they need to add any chemicals to the water ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSFz8vf87I0
 
groen said:
You guys are mad, arguing the case for putting a poison in the tap water, maybe too much fluoride over the years has destroyed your cognitive pathways.
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What bottled water do you drink, is it naturally fluorinated? what other chemicals and compounds does it have in it.

AGAIN pretty much every substance is a poison.

You ever take aspirin or any other drugs. They are all poisons did you die from taking them? no. They are beneficial to you at certain dosages.
 
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I use reverse osmosis, with my ro-man.

That whole naturally fluorinated is a pathetic argument. lol

Every substance is a poison at a certain quantity, what classifies substances a poison is when they take a small quantity to cause death. That is why fluoride is a poison because a teaspoon of fluoride could kill you or at least make you very very sick.
 
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groen said:
I don't drink the tap water and i have not for many years. You guys are mad, arguing the case for putting a poison in the tap water, maybe too much fluoride over the years has destroyed your cognitive pathways. What would you say if they put cyanide in the water at super low quantities saying that it was good for the skin ?
They actually want to start adding lithium to the water, japan has been talking about it. Why do they need to add any chemicals to the water ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSFz8vf87I0
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So you don't even drink the non-poisoned water, yet urge us from adding something which won't affect you in any way as you don't drink it anyway. Thanks for the input. They won't be adding lithium to the water here, so why bring up something that isn't going to happen? I'd say there was a touch os sensationalism about your post.

Oddly, if we are all 'mad' as you put it, the lithium might bring us right into the normal category alongside you...
 
I was merely making a point that adding chemicals to water is not for what they say it is, there has been no proof that fluoride helps the teeth, there is actually studies that it damages teeth in children. But even if it did help teeth, that is no reason to add it to the bloody water. Why don't they add nutrients then, start adding all these nutrients and vaccines in to the water, why fluoride only ?

Fluoride is put into the water to make the population apathetic and lethargic mentally, as well as a cost effective way to dispose of a chemical by product of manufacturing.

You know the scientific establishment has been very wrong many many times in the past, no reason to think what they think is correct is malicious, they could have been just as convinced of the apparent positive aspect of fluoride as the rest of the population.
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
So you don't even drink the non-poisoned water, yet urge us from adding something which won't affect you in any way as you don't drink it anyway. Thanks for the input. They won't be adding lithium to the water here, so why bring up something that isn't going to happen? I'd say there was a touch os sensationalism about your post.

Oddly, if we are all 'mad' as you put it, the lithium might bring us right into the normal category alongside you...
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Isn't this a little off topic. Shouldn't you be commenting on the OP as per your own criticism of me (unfairly) earlier.

Hypocrite.
 
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