Would you like all your games on Steam?

Not at all.

Steam has a nasty habit of leaving my desktop brightness oddly low (yet the mouse is not) when I've quit a game forcing me to fiddle with the settings to get it back or restart the machine. Kept happening years ago and when I played the Mafia 2 demo, it happened then too. I find Steam to be generally annoying but I could probably live with it if it wasn't doing the brightness business all the time.
 
Evilsod said:
And seriously if someone did something stupid to get your account VAC banned how is that *any* fault of steams?
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I hate it when people say this so i apologise in advance but:

Have a look over my previous posts again. In those you will see i made the admission that any ban would be *my* fault for letting others use my account. However what i'm protesting is that a ban across several games seems a little harsh to me. I'd happily accept the blame and repurchase (or rather, request the friend that got me banned repurchase) the game in question, but having to buy *all* VAC based games because of one stupid moment just seems a little harsh.

Again as i said previously though, if Steam did become my platform of choice and i got more games on it than i have now, i would become a lot more strict with who i let use my account. I only have a handful of games and because of this i'm willing to take the risk.

Anyway, lets move one from that one point in my list. It's probably the smallest concern of the ones i've listed anyway so i'd rather not focus on it.
 
bhavv said:
It is a huge security risk.
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Sure, if you have the internet awareness of a hamster.

A strong password you change occasionally. Not logging into Steam anywhere but the program, even the site if your paranoid. There is a big difference between being hacked and having your account stolen. Hacking implies someone had to force there way in, not that you stupidly dl'd a keylogger or entered them on a phising site.

And as i said earlier (as have others), VAC is NOT a global ban. It bans you from VAC secured servers off that game engine only which in almost all cases applies to only ONE game. Source games i'm not so sure about. The only exception i can think of is MW2 where VAC bans simply prevent you going online full stop.
 
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Streeteh said:
I hate it when people say this so i apologise in advance but:

Have a look over my previous posts again. In those you will see i made the admission that any ban would be *my* fault for letting others use my account. However what i'm protesting is that a ban across several games seems a little harsh to me. I'd happily accept the blame and repurchase (or rather, request the friend that got me banned repurchase) the game in question, but having to buy *all* VAC based games because of one stupid moment just seems a little harsh.

Again as i said previously though, if Steam did become my platform of choice and i got more games on it than i have now, i would become a lot more strict with who i let use my account. I only have a handful of games and because of this i'm willing to take the risk.

Anyway, lets move one from that one point in my list. It's probably the smallest concern of the ones i've listed anyway so i'd rather not focus on it.
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From another point of view. If someone got VAC banned for hacking in CSS, I wouldn't want to play with them at TF2.
To be honest though, I don't see it as being banned from the game, as you can still play the games. You get banned from VAC secured servers instead.

As for the original question at hand. Yes, I want all my games on Steam (or at least some other digital distribution method, battle.net etc.).

Security isn't an issue if you have a brain. People say it's 99.99% the fault of the account holder, I'd push it to 100%. If you've got a strong password, and you're aware of phishing attempts and the like, you're not going to loose your account through a brute force hack.

As for Valve going bust and everyone loosing their games.... Not going to happen in my lifetime with the business model they have.

While it's nice to have disks and boxes, they don't last forever no matter how careful you are.
 
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orderoftheflame said:
From another point of view. If someone got VAC banned for hacking in CSS, I wouldn't want to play with them at TF2.

To be honest though, I don't see it as being banned from the game, as you can still play the games. You get banned from VAC secured servers instead.
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Yeah but being banned from VAC secured servers is just as bad as being banned from the game to me :p

You know me order, i ain't know haxxor.
 
Evilsod said:
Sure, if you have the internet awareness of a hamster.
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Internet awareness doesnt do a thing to stop Valve from banning your account for absolutely no reason whatsoever, as they can do at any thime according to the T+Cs that you signed.

Also, keyloggers can easily slip past anyones internet awareness, regardless of how careful they are.
 
Streeteh said:
Yeah but being banned from VAC secured servers is just as bad as being banned from the game to me :p

You know me order, i ain't know haxxor.
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Just playing devils advocate. ;)

bhavv said:
Internet awareness doesnt do a thing to stop Valve from banning your account for absolutely no reason whatsoever, as they can do at any thime according to the T+Cs that you signed.
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I'd love to see some examples of this "banning your account for no reason whatsoever" though I suspect you'll come up short.

I suspect in the majority of cases it is through some fault of the account owner having lax security.

bhavv said:
Also, keyloggers can easily slip past anyones internet awareness, regardless of how careful they are.
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Disagree with this.

They don't just "appear out of nowhere".
 
bhavv said:
Theres also a higher chance of getting those games back through either having them found or insurance.



I dont do any of those things, but It would be ridiculous to me to have every game I own on Steam. Because you can lose them all through one account being hacked or banned. It is a huge security risk.
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From the way you are going on, anything on the internet is a huge security risk! Seriously, use a proper password, don't go on dodgy websites, and be ******* sensible!

If you can't use a sensible password, and can't be sensible on the internet, don't use it.

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Also, keyloggers can easily slip past anyones internet awareness, regardless of how careful they are.
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This is a load of rubbish too. Keyloggers don't just slip past.

You are obviously anti-Steam, so I really don't know why I'm even bothering. If you don't have the capacity to use a safe password, and be sensible, then maybe you deserve to be hacked.
 
bhavv said:
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416971

Regardless, the T+Cs that you sign say that Valve can do it if they want without a reason, it doesnt require examples.
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That's not an example. That's some bloke saying his accounts been blocked 5 years ago.

In fact, it's pretty clear you've just googled for some page and not even read it. This bloke has even posted that he got it resolved through valve, after he ended up getting it hijacked.

Apparently somehow my account got hijacked and they disabled it to prevent it from getting permanently banned. They sent me a replacement account password and said it would be reactivated once I entered the password. Good news to hear that this is resolved and that they weren't accusing me of cheating.
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You'd get a "Please see me" if that were school work...
 
I'd prefer all my games to be tied to Steam due to convenience, but I refuse to buy games on Steam unless they're significantly cheaper than their retail counterparts (I only buy games when they're on sale).

I must be the only person who doesn't value the convenience Steam offers, and am therefore not prepared to shell out extra for it. I'll happily swap out discs if it means saving £10-15 per game.
 
trickycurve said:
I must be the only person who doesn't value the convenience Steam offers, and am therefore not prepared to shell out extra for it. I'll happily swap out discs if it means saving £10-15 per game.
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£10-15 i agree but they are normally down to the publisher setting the price higher and it remaining at that long after the price has dropped elsewhere. Either way sales are clearly a lot better value.

And its not just swapping out cds. You can take your entire catalogue with you anywhere in the world (within reason) and download your games or be in offline mode and play them without one and you don't have to take anything extra with you.
 
If I had the option to, I'd almost certainly have all my games on steam. Makes it easier to play with friends and I've learnt to love the in game browser they've got :p
 
I'd rather have best of both worlds. As has been said - you need an internet connection...

Sometimes I don't due to whatever reason but I can still play away with games that don't need the online activation (:mad:). I'd like to have both to be honest and never have steam phase out the plastic medium.
 
OP. Yes I would prefer every single game I own to be on steam.

I would (and have) pay a premium to stream rather than have the disk.

1) I never sell games 2nd hand
2) I scratch, lose and generally abuse CD's, boxes etc
3) I have little doubt that if the cash-cow steam goes bust, they will do as promised and release a 'do not need to connect to steam servers to play' patch.


(Remember the flak steam got when first released? The whole community HATED it with an unholy passion. I stand proud as one of the few that loved it from the start! I was right they were wrong! Haha)
 
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