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Incredible video, the realword difference between 480 & 5970

Tessellation is by far more superior in the Nvidia 480 over the 5970 is a given. Whats most disturbing is the laggy frames by the 5970 which really is unforgivable imho when paying that amount for a premium card. However how likely are you going to be running that benchmark because or games the 5970 is pretty beastly for framerates.
 
Wasn't the extreme tessellation added by nvidia or with help of nvidia, basically its hardly an unbiased benchmark is it.

Also there is just no need for a card to handle heavy tessellation yet, hell I think we will see heavy tessellation only when 7000, and 600s series are going to come out if we're lucky.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
WoW, xfire 5870 does not even crush a stock 480, imagine the gap when you clock the 480, yeah you can clock the 5870's but were talking about one GPU v two cards. 480 all the way going by that chart, I can live with the slightly lower fps especially when the 480 is clocked, no more xfire scaling problems and inconsistent stuttering performance.
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You're hardly sane my friend. Imagine the gap when you clock both 5870s :eek:

They're 37% faster on average at 1920x1200 with Crysis minimum framerates 30% better.

How many people report micro-stuttering issues? Most threads that were around the topic died of natural death.

How's GTX 480 all the way choice for going from Xfire 5870s?

Oh, forgot you're the "neutral" in these Forums.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Prod...6.119.110.113.121.122.123.124.125.126.127.128
 
GJ02 said:
thing is, since fermi launch people are saying its getting better and better, reviews are showning that sli is the best you can get.
i think people are seeing this and starting to switch, look at raven, he was the biggest fermi non believer now look at him.
ive even considered it, but then realised its a no brainer unless im going to sli, but until next year new cards are out of the question.
going from a 5870xfire to a single 480 imo is a sidestep, a waste of time and loss of money.
why exactly are you doing this, xfire driver support is not an issue for me using 10.4, .6 and .8 all of which are rock solid with no real issues. i stick with .4's as they have been the best out of the 3 sets.
have you not considered waiting to see what ati bring out next ?
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Raven really isn't the best example, he just rages about what ever brand card he has at the time. When he came to the forums, he was the worst nVidia troll at that time.
 
I have done a lot of reading regarding the swap, there are loads of people on these very forums who have done the same swap as me and are loving it. Granted, the 480 GTX may not be as fast as a crossfire set-up BUT, if you compare the minimum FPS of both, the 480 GTX comes up the winner.

I see it like this;

The crossfire set-up may max out at 120 FPS in a game but minimums may hit say 30. The 480 GTX may max out at 80 but minimums reach 45/50. Yes the 5870's are faster but the 480 will provide smoother game-play.

If I don't notice a difference, I will be the first to come on here an admit my mistake but until then, I am happy with my choice to jump ship.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Ask rjkoneill, it's his thread that made me jump to a 480.
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I don't care what he says tbh, it's just one person that didn't run enough benchmarks to convince me at all. You're the one that's being lured into marketing practices.

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I see Crossfire 5870s at stock beating overclocked 480 there, Just Cause 2 being frame capped, GTA IV doesn't use SLI/Crossfire afaik and a single 5870 doing just as well as 480, same goes for Dawn of War 2 and Splinter Cell Conviction.

Raven, you're not a player.
 
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Nerusy said:
Wasn't the extreme tessellation added by nvidia or with help of nvidia, basically its hardly an unbiased benchmark is it.

Also there is just no need for a card to handle heavy tessellation yet, hell I think we will see heavy tessellation only when 7000, and 600s series are going to come out if we're lucky.
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Unbiased or not, it's still excessive tesselation, excessive meaning that they're using it at a lever that doesn't increase image quality over lower levels of it. Tesselation is currently very disappointing, it was one of my most looked forward to features of DX11, and it's sad to see it being used to poorly. Nearly all examples of tesselation used in games and benchmarks so far just focus on simply increasing the triangle count in a mesh, without any regard to the actual detail of the mesh.

So for example, the polycount may have gone up by 10x, but the detail hasn't changed much because they've just divided the polys inside without changing the topology (chaning the topology is what would increase the detail along side the increase in polygons).
 
coupe69 said:
edit nvm, raven beat me to it :p
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exactly
he went agaisnt what he asked people, and done what he thought was best, given the fact he works for one of, if not the best computer hardware retailer, he isnt going to be paying for stuff at the same price we do i think.
he goes 480 as apose to his xfire setup, people read his results and buy more 480's from overclockers...thats how to make sales
 
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As shown in my little thread comparing a 1000 core 5870 to a 480 clocked to 850, the 480 is simply a beast once overclocked, the min fps is so much better giving a smoother performance, couldn't be happier.
 
Mr Krugga said:
I don't care what he says tbh, it's just one person that didn't run enough benchmarks to convince me at all. You're the one that's being lured into marketing practices.
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Considering a few people were calling him out on his numbers, saying they were lower than a single card, and a lot lower than their two cards, I'd be inclined to believe it wasn't set up properly.

From personal experience, I just don't get how so many people get it wrong when it comes to drivers. I know they do, I've seen it, I've seen people botch a windows install so badly that they claim windows is crap, when they won't follow the correct install procdure.

The fact that people complain about things not working so much is because they're so unwilling to accept that they themselves have made the mistakes/errors.

Basically, people are more likely to go "ARGH IT'S CRAP, I'M BINNING IT" than go "ARGH, what have I done?".

Not that I'm saying his benches were fixed, but rather his 5870 crossfire wasn't set up properly, it happens a lot, a lot of people just seem to have difficulty with setting things up.

Whenever I've had crossfire set ups, it's just worked unless there's been a physical problem with the card/s
 
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