Travelling to the US in the next 2 years?

[Moredhel]

Another cracking Fox post where you miss the entire point of my post, congratulations.

Other countries have Visa waiver systems where you just turn up and are let in ... you know, like the whole open borders EU thing?

Americans do not need to fill in a form when they come to UK afaik, and are not charged 9 quid for the fun of it.

USA could simply scrap ESTA and allow people in without a form you know, which was the whole point of my post. They will still know who gets in as they will have the passport information from your entry.

Nonsense, of course they have to fill out forms to enter the country, there's signs for them at the border line at every UK airport I've landed at!

You stress the open boarders policy of Europe, but that's only for European citizens travelling from one EU country to another, almost all the countries in the world require a visa first, the US is one of the few who don't for UK citizens, this is a good thing™.

Yes they could just allow people in willy nilly, this of course relies upon the security of the foreign countries passport system, but why would anyone in the world want to sneak into the states, right? Of course by the same terms they could just refused entry to anyone who doesn't submit to a full blood work up and DNA profiling check, unless you pay £50,000 to avoid it. It's -their- border, they can do what they like.

As for the charge, thank GOD for the warning! I now have a chance to save up for my potential holiday to the states in 3 years to afford the MASSIVE den't the whopping £9 is going to make on my budget!

It's nine pounds, that doesn't even buy lunch for 2 days, it won't even get you 3 pints of beer! It's barely worth reporting on.

 

[rypt]

Nonsense, of course they have to fill out forms to enter the country, there's signs for them at the border line at every UK airport I've landed at!

I am talking about EU open borders, where EU nationals can go to any country within the EU and not need to sign anything and not need any Visa. We are still separate countries so while we may be in a political/economic union we are still independent.
Much like Canada and USA allow open borders with no forms afaik for each other

Equally I'm not sure if you need any extra paperwork when you use the Schengen visa thing for the non-EU nationals

 

[Basher]

£9, that is going to make a difference in my trip to America!

You best get filling the form out, then.

 

[Amp34]

Nonsense, of course they have to fill out forms to enter the country, there's signs for them at the border line at every UK airport I've landed at!

You stress the open boarders policy of Europe, but that's only for European citizens travelling from one EU country to another, almost all the countries in the world require a visa first, the US is one of the few who don't for UK citizens, this is a good thing™.

Yes they could just allow people in willy nilly, this of course relies upon the security of the foreign countries passport system, but why would anyone in the world want to sneak into the states, right? Of course by the same terms they could just refused entry to anyone who doesn't submit to a full blood work up and DNA profiling check, unless you pay £50,000 to avoid it. It's -their- border, they can do what they like.

As for the charge, thank GOD for the warning! I now have a chance to save up for my potential holiday to the states in 3 years to afford the MASSIVE den't the whopping £9 is going to make on my budget!

It's nine pounds, that doesn't even buy lunch for 2 days, it won't even get you 3 pints of beer! It's barely worth reporting on.

Yup, having come back from the US just a few days ago I can safely say, even on a plane from Canada every non UK/EU citizen needs to fill out a form, and you need to fill in a similar form to get into Canada and the US...

We in Britain are probably the luckiest people in the world with regard to Visas, with the EU and historic connections (commonwealth mainly) we can go to a huge number of places without needing to fill out a Visa application. US citizens aren't so lucky so they have to make up for it some way.

 

[Amp34]

I am talking about EU open borders, where EU nationals can go to any country within the EU and not need to sign anything and not need any Visa. We are still separate countries so while we may be in a political/economic union we are still independent.
Much like Canada and USA allow open borders with no forms afaik for each other

Equally I'm not sure if you need any extra paperwork when you use the Schengen visa thing for the non-EU nationals

IIRC Canadians still have to fill in a form to get into the US, just like we do.

 

[Wossi]

Okay, so I read that as "tunnelling".


The point is, if you lie and they find out they can deport you instantly for no extraneous reason, no trial, no appeal etc.

I have a feeling that they won't deport you for being a terrorist or for commiting war crimes until after you have a brief stay at their leisure resort in Cuba

But the point I was trying to make is, who wouldn't honestly say they were a terrorist on a form needed to gain entry to the USA?

 

[arknor]

£9, that is going to make a difference in my trip to America!

no but if you have a family of 4 people 9x 4 = £36 which would buy you around 55$

either way how much do you get paid an hour at work? chances are that £9 takes you atleast half an hours work to earn, you may aswell fill in a form while its free

 

[Biz.Kid09]

Right i have just tried to do this as im going on a cruise at christmas and conveniently the page is down the day before they charge? can anyone try this for me and let me know if theres is working.

 

[chrisxuk]

The page isn't loading for me, either.

 

[Biz.Kid09]

argh!!! thats £27 down the drain then...i bet they found out that Money saving bloke was telling everyone on daybreak to do it...

 

[Fr0dders]

no but if you have a family of 4 people 9x 4 = £36 which would buy you around 55$

either way how much do you get paid an hour at work? chances are that £9 takes you atleast half an hours work to earn, you may aswell fill in a form while its free

if £36 is a big deal to you how the hell did you afford the £2000 air fair it would cost for a family of 4 !!!!

and thats before you've actually hired a car and a hotel.

People who spend 3 or 4k on a holiday cant moan that £36 is too much.

 

[Basher]

if £36 is a big deal to you how the hell did you afford the £2000 air fair it would cost for a family of 4 !!!!

and thats before you've actually hired a car and a hotel.

People who spend 3 or 4k on a holiday cant moan that £36 is too much.

Why spend £36 on something you could get for free?

 

[Moredhel]

Because when the charges come in, you won't be able to get it for free, that's the point.

You'll be paying £36 on something that costs £36, a minute amount in the grand scheme of things on a several thousand pound holiday.

 

[Basher]

Because when the charges come in, you won't be able to get it for free, that's the point.

You'll be paying £36 on something that costs £36, a minute amount in the grand scheme of things on a several thousand pound holiday.

Yes, but the point of the thread was that you could get it for free up until very recently. You also don't need to be spending several thousand points to be going to America.