Silverstone Fortress FT02B

This is the one thing that is slightly making me hold off getting a Raven v2, why, why do they have to be so tight on space, on really all cases. AN extra inch in height would make all the difference in the world, and lets be honest, whose taking this case and jaming in it an overly tight space, no one basically.

I don't like buying cases that could be a pain in the future, I just can't see any reason why they wouldn't design it to fit a e-atx/atx-xl and have another couple centimetres on top of that "just in case".
 
drunkenmaster said:
This is the one thing that is slightly making me hold off getting a Raven v2, why, why do they have to be so tight on space, on really all cases. AN extra inch in height would make all the difference in the world, and lets be honest, whose taking this case and jaming in it an overly tight space, no one basically.

I don't like buying cases that could be a pain in the future, I just can't see any reason why they wouldn't design it to fit a e-atx/atx-xl and have another couple centimetres on top of that "just in case".
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Totaly agree mate.

But Once everything is in proper and neat, it works out pretty well.
And yes an extra inch would help :D

I'm trying to get them AP181 fans, but can't seem to get hold of them in the uk :(
 
After carefully figuring it out, I don't think the raven or the ft02 will fit my computer. Using a Crosshair, which needlessly ignores the first expansion slot so it can have a stupidly large heatsink where the first slot could go and with the way it fits my 2nd 5850 with Prolimatech fits in the 6 and 7th expansion slot with the 8th having the fan holding bracket for the Prolimatech heatsink. So the FT02 which loses the 8th expansion slot completely, can't even have the fan bracket installed and I think the prolimatech heatsink itself would actually be blocked by the hard drive cage.

The Raven with the narrower hdd bay and 8 expansion slots can fit it all in but it would be very tight.

If theres any chance the next gen cards would end up longer than a 5970, they just wouldn't fit at all.

It seems to tight a fit/call to buy the Raven v02 hoping it will fit well. Heck, with the crosshair and the FT02 I don't think you could even put a 5850(any dual slot card) in the 4th pci-e 16x slot at all.

I'd never run 4 cards, but its pretty daft to make a case that doesn't have at least a tiny bit of space for large coolers on the potential 2nd/3rd card in a system.

I wondered if the first Raven might have more space but the motherboard is right up against the back of the case, no room behind the last pci-e slots at all.

Thing is, how many enthusiasts have tiny ickle desks and are seriously not going to buy a case because its marginally bigger. Most enthusiasts would take better space and a slightly bigger case for complete future compatibility and plenty of excess room. I'm not actually sure when the FT02 launched, but was it after the 5970x2 was out. Considering its actually quite a short case due to the design, its even more ridiculous they didn't make it an inch taller and make it e-atx compatible.

THe most frustrating thing is, its clearly by FAR the best design for air cooling so I really do want the rotated motherboard type case, but now I've got to wait for something a bit bigger.

Personally I want a FT02, in steel, with the sound insulation, no window and probably 2 inches higher, 1-2inches longer, maybe 2, an inch either end of the motherboard so you can fit ridiculous sized heatsinks without the PSU getting in the way, as no doubt the next set of cpu heatsinks will be bigger than the IFX-14.
 
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drunkenmaster said:
After carefully figuring it out, I don't think the raven or the ft02 will fit my computer. Using a Crosshair, which needlessly ignores the first expansion slot so it can have a stupidly large heatsink where the first slot could go and with the way it fits my 2nd 5850 with Prolimatech fits in the 6 and 7th expansion slot with the 8th having the fan holding bracket for the Prolimatech heatsink. So the FT02 which loses the 8th expansion slot completely, can't even have the fan bracket installed and I think the prolimatech heatsink itself would actually be blocked by the hard drive cage.

The Raven with the narrower hdd bay and 8 expansion slots can fit it all in but it would be very tight.

If theres any chance the next gen cards would end up longer than a 5970, they just wouldn't fit at all.

It seems to tight a fit/call to buy the Raven v02 hoping it will fit well. Heck, with the crosshair and the FT02 I don't think you could even put a 5850(any dual slot card) in the 4th pci-e 16x slot at all.

I'd never run 4 cards, but its pretty daft to make a case that doesn't have at least a tiny bit of space for large coolers on the potential 2nd/3rd card in a system.

I wondered if the first Raven might have more space but the motherboard is right up against the back of the case, no room behind the last pci-e slots at all.

Thing is, how many enthusiasts have tiny ickle desks and are seriously not going to buy a case because its marginally bigger. Most enthusiasts would take better space and a slightly bigger case for complete future compatibility and plenty of excess room. I'm not actually sure when the FT02 launched, but was it after the 5970x2 was out. Considering its actually quite a short case due to the design, its even more ridiculous they didn't make it an inch taller and make it e-atx compatible.

THe most frustrating thing is, its clearly by FAR the best design for air cooling so I really do want the rotated motherboard type case, but now I've got to wait for something a bit bigger.

Personally I want a FT02, in steel, with the sound insulation, no window and probably 2 inches higher, 1-2inches longer, maybe 2, an inch either end of the motherboard so you can fit ridiculous sized heatsinks without the PSU getting in the way, as no doubt the next set of cpu heatsinks will be bigger than the IFX-14.
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I wanted to stick a dual rad in mine, but can only stick a single rad, as the 5970 won't fit. i think the 5870 will work ok. oh well, air cooling it is then. maybe one day there bring a FT03 out,same kind of case, but 2-3" higher, then this case would be spot on :D
maybe one i'll go watercooling ;) just don't think it's woth the money to go single rad on an i7 just to have same kind of temps as a cpu air cooler.
 
up2nogooduk said:
Totaly agree mate.

But Once everything is in proper and neat, it works out pretty well.
And yes an extra inch would help :D

I'm trying to get them AP181 fans, but can't seem to get hold of them in the uk :(
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Have just found these in stock in the UK for almost £15, i've ordered 3 for my FT02.
 
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EsaT said:
Design being different doesn't make something automatically superior...
My CPU temps in the RV02 are on par with the LL PC-B70, which to date has been the best air-cooling case I've used.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1034567466#post1034568604

Good design is always needed for achieving good cooling and if design is half-assed just for the sake of complexity result goes toward opposite.
Going from the PC-B70 to the Raven, I GAINED(!!!) about 7 to 10* Celcius on my CPU temps
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1034567466
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that can have more to do with your cpu heatsink not working as well in the design and airflow and frankly I do find that hard to believe because case airflow only lowers or increases temps to a certain degree mostly all down to the cpu heatsink.
you seem to be the only person in the world who's temps rose 10c in a raven ?
 
C64 said:
that can have more to do with your cpu heatsink not working as well in the design and airflow and frankly I do find that hard to believe because case airflow only lowers or increases temps to a certain degree mostly all down to the cpu heatsink.
you seem to be the only person in the world who's temps rose 10c in a raven ?
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I do wonder about this myself, my temperatures dropped really quite significantly on my CPU, by at least 5 celcius with the fans all running very slowing on low volts as well as the fact I changed cases as the hot weather kicked in.

I was running a HAF922... this case is brilliant for temepratures.
 
Got the fans, will get them installed in a bit and see if there is much difference.

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Will be interesting to know the results with those new penetrator fans.

Currently have a xspc RX240 rad in the bottom of my ft02.

Temp wise it seems just a couple of degrees less than my old corsair H50 so not too impressive however it takes longer to reach those peak temps and has been rock solid at 4ghz for a few weeks.


Those penetrator AP181's would possibly create a higher pressure through my radiator.




Overall still say it's the best case I've owned and the only down side is the weight with all the components installed.
 
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Where did you get the penetrator fans ?

Also, you had to remove the grille from the original FT02 fans in order to fit a 5970.
It looks like thos grilles are integrated into the fan casing. Will the 5970 still fit ?
 
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Yeah, you can fit a 5970 with these fans.

Can't mention where i bought them but i sent a message to your trust.



Temps are not a lot different although it is warmer today than it was yesterday.

Hard drive temps are down a couple of degrees and case temp is down slightly.. to be honest i don't think the case could get much cooler than it was before although i'm sure it would be cooler if i ran the fans at full speed.

I have my fans on a fan controller and at full speed they are quite loud but i think it's just the woosh of the large amount of air they are pushing out.

I've turned them down so they are quiet and still kicking out a good amount of air.

I'm glad i bought them though in case i go for a 5970 in the future. :)
 
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sorry to bring this up, but is it worth going for the red version, or getting th eOG and upgrade the fans then?

or wait for a potential FT03, if thats been announced.
 
shaffaaf27 said:
sorry to bring this up, but is it worth going for the red version, or getting th eOG and upgrade the fans then?

or wait for a potential FT03, if thats been announced.
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The FT03 is a different kind of case, its small form factor so if you are considering it you should really make sure that is the case for you first :).
 
shaffaaf27 said:
sorry to bring this up, but is it worth going for the red version, or getting th eOG and upgrade the fans then?

or wait for a potential FT03, if thats been announced.
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Same question for me too.
I'm about to pull the trigger on either the red or the standard black and then buy the fans but im so undecided.
The only thing about going the black route is that it would cost almost £50 to upgrade the fans.

Oh and that TJ11 looks DAMN HOT.
 
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