Councils urged to remove unnecessary street signs

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The government is urging councils in England to cut unnecessary road signs, railings and advertising hoardings in a bid to make streets tidier and safer.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11092590



Thank GOD for some common sense. Im fed up of this metal forest making every town centre/street look like a clone of the next one.

Not to mention the utterly ludicrous amount of Taxpayers (our) cash being wasted on this nonsense.

Hopefully we will see some action on this.
 
I'm still please people we're so anal all those years ago ensuring that signs are clear and easy to read up and down the UK. Makes you proud to be British. :p
 
TangoSixteen said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11092590



Thank GOD for some common sense. Im fed up of this metal forest making every town centre/street look like a clone of the next one.

Not to mention the utterly ludicrous amount of Taxpayers (our) cash being wasted on this nonsense.

Hopefully we will see some action on this.
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This is all OK except Londons being painted with these blue cycle super highways, some roads are so difficult to understand especially at junctions where a blue strip crosses two lanes then a bus lane on the left then veers to the right then just dissapears, coupled with bus lanes that take bikes / cycles / taxis all at random at different times arrrrrrrrr :mad:.....
 
It is strange is it not that the only mention of advertising hoardings is in the introduction to the BBC piece and there is no mention of flashing neon signs or shop displays. Eric Pickles seems much more concerned about road signs than about adverts which are only designed to persuade mugs to spend, spend, spend.

I wonder if perhaps any organisations from the advertising and/or retail industries contributed to the Tory party - I think we should be told.
 
stockhausen said:
It is strange is it not that the only mention of advertising hoardings is in the introduction to the BBC piece and there is no mention of flashing neon signs or shop displays. Eric Pickles seems much more concerned about road signs than about adverts which are only designed to persuade mugs to spend, spend, spend.

I wonder if perhaps any organisations from the advertising and/or retail industries contributed to the Tory party - I think we should be told.
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Do you ever say anything that's relevant or makes any sense, or do you manage to twist everything to anti-tory political crap?

Topman posters do not make it more confusing to drive in town centres.

On another note, a few years ago for some reason the stop signs at the end of a stretch of dual carriageway were taken down and replaced with ones which are, in all honesty, about four times as big as normal ones. They are enormous.

I'm not aware of any incident where anyone has failed to notice the end of the dual carriageway and ploughed into the community college, but it appears they were concerned about the possibility...
 
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Prince Charles had a hand in a housing estate where there were no road signs or markings and I'm lead to believe it has worked quite well with less accidents, tried to find a link but can't find one
 
stockhausen said:
It is strange is it not that the only mention of advertising hoardings is in the introduction to the BBC piece and there is no mention of flashing neon signs or shop displays. Eric Pickles seems much more concerned about road signs than about adverts which are only designed to persuade mugs to spend, spend, spend.

I wonder if perhaps any organisations from the advertising and/or retail industries contributed to the Tory party - I think we should be told.
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Thats because road signs are expensive and create a forest of metal trees.

In the countryside its starting to happen too. When you actually stop, look, and take it what town centres are becoming, its rather shocking. Metal railings EVERYWHERE, crossings EVERYWHERE, sets of traffic lights one after the other after the other after the other.

No one cares about a few adverts, which doesnt cost the taxpayer any money anyway.

EDIT:- I wish we had a picture of a really bad street in a town or village crammed with signs, and some photoshop wizard could do the magic and show what it would look like with all the council garbage removed.
 
Actually if you look into this, Pickles doesn't seem to have mentioned cost, he seems entirely preoccupied with the damage to "English streets' character".

I would suggest that massive advertising hoardings are far more of an eyesore than traffic signs and bollards designed to stop motorists cutting corners and to highlight traffic islands that allow children, the elderly and the infirm to cross the road in some sort of safety; barriers and railings are also intended to keep people off the roads that motorists love so much.


I believe that in some places now, councils are doing away with pavements altogether in order to limit the separation of pedestrian and motorists in the hope that this will force drivers to take more care - seems risky even if well-intentioned.
 
TangoSixteen said:
Thats because road signs are expensive and create a forest of metal trees.

In the countryside its starting to happen too. When you actually stop, look, and take it what town centres are becoming, its rather shocking. Metal railings EVERYWHERE, crossings EVERYWHERE, sets of traffic lights one after the other after the other after the other.

No one cares about a few adverts, which doesnt cost the taxpayer any money anyway.

EDIT:- I wish we had a picture of a really bad street in a town or village crammed with signs, and some photoshop wizard could do the magic and show what it would look like with all the council garbage removed.
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If you scroll down to: LTN 1/08 Traffic Management and Streetscape.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/tpm/ltnotes/

It's all about streetscape design and reducing clutter. There is case studies too.

If you look at the DfT, CABE and Sustrans websites. There is loads of information on de-cluttering, home zones, DIY streets, shared space, etc. It's all the same principles really. The new manual for High Streets is also out soon, it will be pushing de-cluttering and greater priory for pedestrians over traffic.
 
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