Having nightmare OC'ing G0 Q6600 - any advice?

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Hello all.

Been lurking for a long while but now have a problem which has me stumped.

I bought a Q6600 (G0) off the bay. It came lapped, and had was described as being OC'd to 3GHz on water, so thought a modest overclock.

It was a direct replacement for an E6600, which id previously OCd to 3.3 Ghz on stock cooler with no problems (good case with cooling, Antec P180). But i cant get about about 2.7Ghz without BSODs, hanging, restarts.

Ive read a number of overclocking guides (including the sticky here) and have only gone up in small increments. It seems ok at 2.5/2.6 (passes P95 small FFT), but at 2.7 or higher it either hangs on loading (W7 64), BSODs or restarts.

I upgraded the cooler to a reasonable Gigabyte G-power 2. Thought must be better than the stock intel. Temps at 2.5Ghz are only 45-48 full load, 32-35 idling.

Ive tried upping both the memory voltage (to 2.1, in increments - stock is 1.8) and the vcore (from 1.25 up to 1.4, again in increments). Nothing seems to help. Been trying this for nearly a week now. Memory set at standard timings (5-5-5-18).

Prime 95 blend test even fails on stock/auto settings, although the small fft passes for an hour. Thought might be memory so Ive ran memtest overnight and no errors. The memory was bought on two occasions, although is identical - bought another 2x 1gb at same time as cpu. I also tested the exisitng 2gb with memtest prior to installing second.

Im stumped. And frustrated. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is it just a duff chip? May be able to to a refund if so.

My specs;

Q6600 G0 stepping.
Gigabyte Gpower2 CPU Cooler.
4x1gb Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 5-5-5-18
Abit Ab9 Pro Motherboard
Coolermaster 500W PSU.
Antec P180 Case.
Nvidia 9400 GT GFX card (1gb)
60gb OCZ Vertex2 SSD system drive
2x320gb and 1x1TB storage drives.

Computer is used for music (Cubase/Ableton) and not games, which take full advantage of additional cores.

Many thanks, regards

Ben
 
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:What CPU and memory multiplier are you using?

I found a review with details on how they over clocked a dual core, just google 'abit ab9 overclocking' :p

While your CPU cooler doesnt fill me with confidence, I would expect you to hit 3.0 Ghz with ease
 
:What CPU and memory multiplier are you using?

I found a review with details on how they over clocked a dual core, just google 'abit ab9 overclocking' :p

While your CPU cooler doesnt fill me with confidence, I would expect you to hit 3.0 Ghz with ease

Thanks for reply; sorry, did forget to mention.

Im using the standard 9x multiplier, and whatever ram multiplier results in a less than 800Mhz (ram standard), as per the guides.

I agree with the cooler not being great but i broke the stock intel i had on the e6600 and had to grab one quickly on sunday to make sure cpu worked. Will get a decent silent cooler soon.

ill read a few more guides; i have read a number up til now.

Im not looking for a massive oc, just a bit more performance, around 3-3.2 would be great. Just being simplistic, i thought since i easily overclocked the e6600 to 3.2 (just fsb as i recall), a straight swap with a quad and an improved cooler would be easy to get. Doesn't seem so :(

I thought it was generally a bad idea to copy others settings, although i have referenced a few (eg - THIS POST.

Many thanks for your reply, appreciate it

Cheers

Ben
 
try with only 2 sticks of ram.

my old q8200 wouldnt budge from 2.8ghz with all four mem slots occupied.

purchased 2x2gb and ended up getting it to 3.2ghz.

what mobo have you got?.
 
try with only 2 sticks of ram.

my old q8200 wouldnt budge from 2.8ghz with all four mem slots occupied.

purchased 2x2gb and ended up getting it to 3.2ghz.

what mobo have you got?.

Ill try that, after the NB voltage tweak suggested below. Its an Abit Ab9 Pro.

Shame, i got the additional 2gb and windows 7 64... could always sell and get 2x 2gb.

Cheers
 
I was running my Q6600 on water and it ran 24/7 at 3.8, It would go to 4.2 but temps where way high and at the limit of the volts I dared push through it.
 
I was running my Q6600 on water and it ran 24/7 at 3.8, It would go to 4.2 but temps where way high and at the limit of the volts I dared push through it.

Thanks. Ive read all over the place that the Q6600s are very overclockable chips, which is why im a bit surprised mines so reluctant - the e6600 was a breeze too.

What sort of voltages were you using? - edit just read it again and i noticed water cooling. nvm. Thanks anyway.

Cheers
 
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Ok Minor update - thinkgs looking quite promising.

Upped the NB voltage to 1.35, up two 'notches'

Prime95 now passes blend test at stock! Which implies memory etc all working correctly now. Tested up to 2.8 and passed the 30min Small FFT test, currently testing 2.9. Still on stock vcore, temps around 50, all looking very promising !

Many thanks all, ill let you know how i get on further - got a day off work, so doing a bit of OCing but im down to look after my baby this afternoon so we will see what he lets me do!

Big thanks

Ben
 
Hmm... no joy. 2.9 gives lots of errors, blue screens and/or hangs on welcome screen. Currently trying to repair windows install.

Think ill try the two memory sticks next. I have already tested these tho, both with 2, and 4. Annoying i nearly bougt 2x 2gb to try to eliminate any issues but since i found the exact same ram i thought id just go for two more of the same.

Ho hum,

Cheers
 
Well, im stumped.

2.8 works fine, stable 1hr small fft @ 1.27v vcore. @310x9
2.9 crashes/BSODs/hangs windows no matter what vcore.

2.9 @ 360x8 is exactly the same.

edit:currently trying 315x9 just to see what happens...

Looks like im not going to go any higher than 2.8Ghz... maybe just a bad chip? Shame, paid over the odds as it's been lapped and because it was previously ocd to 3ghz @ 50degs or so, thinking i had plenty of room to OC.

Unless anyone has any further ideas?

Maybe i should try 2x2gb ? Dont want to throw much more money at this dated system now, was meant to be something to tide me over for 12-18months while i save up for a new i7 system.

Cheers for the tip re the northbridge regardless, has sorted out my concerns re prime95@stock.

Many thanks

Ben
 
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Bump the north bridge volts to 1.4/1.5v this is fine aslong as mobo temp dos'nt sky rocket, if u have heatpipe cooling on the mobo it will be fine.

Bump the cpu vcore upto 1.4v then try testing again, upping the fsb after each test, this way the vcore is high enough to be able to handle things, but not drasticly high that its dangerous.
 
Increase the fsb voltage, not just vcore and nb.

I dont think I can do that? The only options i can change in voltage are

CPU Core
DDR2 Voltage
MCH Voltage
ICHIO Voltage.

As i understand it (pls correct if wrong) ichio is irrelevant.

I got 315x9 stable 1hr with 1.4vcore, 1,4 MCH and 2.1 DDR2,

Just tried 320x9, with 1.5 vcore, 1.45 mch (max i can go) and it restarts as it loads windows (after the swirly logo).
:mad:

the only thing ive not touched is the 'NB Strap CPU' which im just going to google now.

cheers

Ben
 
Abit Ab9 Pro Motherboard

that could be the problem (not saying it is for sure) might be worth selling that and picking up a second hand p5q pro they go for around £40 these days and one of the best boards for overclocking a q6600.
 
Try with multiplier at 8* and up the fsb speed, mine clocks easily to 3.2ghz with no voltage changes, is a bitch to get 3.2ghz @ 9*
 
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