*Official OMG I got my 460 thread*

[bhavv]

Whats the score with the VRM things on these cards, read so much i have no idea if its meant to have a cooler or not or if it even matters... ??

This is what the palit sonic looked like in reviews:

http://www.techspot.com/review/299-palit-inno3d-geforce-gtx-460/page4.html

The final end product had no VRM coler or even in some cases copper heatpipes on the cooler. Some people are getting the heatsink with copper heatpipes, other people are just getting a slab of bare metal.

The VRM coolers on them increase max overclocks by a bit, mine went up from 875 to 890 Mhz stable without artifacts after adding some VRM sinks, however even the stock card overclock of 875 Mhz for two MSIs was higher than what I've seen the Palit capable of.

The VRM cooler isnt the only issue. The issue is potentially getting the cooler with no heatpipes and maybe also getting whining fan noise.

They seem to have fixed the fan noise with a new bios, so you would already need to bios update them if you have problems with that.

My only concern is why buy the palit right now when the Asus is £165 and better? Go for the better card, especially when it is cheaper.

Well, the Asus is only £2 more than the palit now, still definately worth getting instead.

Just also read that this card is very loud and may require a bios flash..... Wish i had gone for the 5850 now.. Think i will stop reading and see what its like tomorrow...

Why a 5850? Just remember that its ONLY the Palit version so far that has been having these problems. Any of the custom cooled 460s would be fine without any noise issues, plus you are guaranteed a great cooler and decent overclocks.

 

[bassj18]

i got gigabye card and it running so cool with my i7 cpu

going overlock it soon push it bit more ! read what people get on it !

anyadvice great !

 

[MOOGLEYS]

This is what the palit sonic looked like in reviews:

http://www.techspot.com/review/299-palit-inno3d-geforce-gtx-460/page4.html

The final end product had no VRM coler or even in some cases copper heatpipes on the cooler. Some people are getting the heatsink with copper heatpipes, other people are just getting a slab of bare metal.

The VRM coolers on them increase max overclocks by a bit, mine went up from 875 to 890 Mhz stable without artifacts after adding some VRM sinks, however even the stock card overclock of 875 Mhz for two MSIs was higher than what I've seen the Palit capable of.

The VRM cooler isnt the only issue. The issue is potentially getting the cooler with no heatpipes and maybe also getting whining fan noise.

They seem to have fixed the fan noise with a new bios, so you would already need to bios update them if you have problems with that.

My only concern is why buy the palit right now when the Asus is £165 and better? Go for the better card, especially when it is cheaper.

Well, the Asus is only £2 more than the palit now, still definately worth getting instead.



Why a 5850? Just remember that its ONLY the Palit version so far that has been having these problems. Any of the custom cooled 460s would be fine without any noise issues, plus you are guaranteed a great cooler and decent overclocks.

Oh well i ordered the palit and its coming tomorrow, It recieved great reviews..?? If its different then it will go back and i will get a different model...

 

[bhavv]

It recieved great reviews..??

Of course, by people that are just running them at stock frequencies, or arent pushing it beyond 800 Mhz

Even the ATI HD 5000 cards that had removed voltage tweaking still recieved great reviews and people reccomending them, besides not being voltage tweakable.

I have my MSIs working comfortably at 890 Mhz with just 78 / 74 degrees, they are pretty much begging me to be bios modded with an unlocked voltage cap bios to push them past 900, but I dont need to do that yet.

If you are buying to overclock them, some versions are far better than others, particularly the MSI / Gigabyte ones.

Oh one thing that I missed, the review I posted was the Sonic Platinum, that one definately has the cooler with heatpipes so is ok. The non platinum is not so good, but if you are already getting one, its probably not worth paying to post it back, particularly if you arent bothered about overclocking.

If youre only going to run it at stock settings, theres nothing bad about it.

 

[MOOGLEYS]

Its the non platinum i ordered. Mainly as it has native HDMi and VGA as well as the good reviews, it also comes with slightly higher clocks than other models..
I,m hoping to see a nice improvement over my 4850. I,m a little put off by the fact all the review models that were supposed to be retail were of a different spec. It seems Palit have done a bit of last min cost cutting at the expense of the consumer.. We will see tomorrow if its as crap as they are saying i.e no heatpipe cooler then its going back and i will have it swapped for another model..

 

[bhavv]

You should be able to check for the heatpipes by looking underneath the shroud (no need to remove anything).

I would like to know what the cooler on it is like, as so far I've only heard about it in a few places.

 

[MOOGLEYS]

You should be able to check for the heatpipes by looking underneath the shroud (no need to remove anything).

I would like to know what the cooler on it is like, as so far I've only heard about it in a few places.

I will post some photos tomorrow evening...

Just been reading and it seems most of the cards do not have the VRM heatsinks and the Nvidia reference design does not have them either..

 

[bhavv]

The MSIs dont come with them either, but they still clock higher than most of the others.

Apparantly MSI changed the VRM design a little to allow everything to run cooler.

875 Mhz without VRM sinks, 890 Mhz with for both my cards.

 

[MOOGLEYS]

This is the palit heatsink...They have added sinks to the VRM,s.. The heatsink has no heatpipes and looks a bit crappy tbh..

 

[kitch9]

The MSIs dont come with them either, but they still clock higher than most of the others.

Apparantly MSI changed the VRM design a little to allow everything to run cooler.

875 Mhz without VRM sinks, 890 Mhz with for both my cards.

Do they use magic vrms that don't get warm like the rest? We've no real way of knowing as there's no temp sensors on them.

 

[chrisgt]

How many of you are actually running 850/1700/2000 OCCT stable ?

 

[DBT85]

How many of you are actually running 850/1700/2000 OCCT stable ?

Gigabyte 1gb 870/1740/2200 and happy as Larry.

 

[bhavv]

Do they use magic vrms that don't get warm like the rest? We've no real way of knowing as there's no temp sensors on them.

They are positioned differently that reduces the temps, and allows for higher overclocks according to what I read, as well as using the higher quality components that Asus + Gigabyte also use (and also, the reference GTX 460).

How many of you are actually running 850/1700/2000 OCCT stable ?

890 / 1780 / 2125 on two MSIs, furmark stable with unlocked power draw. I'll try OCCT later, but not while my backups are running atm (Had 800 Gb of data backing up since yesterday to my new 2 Tb drive, and am currently restoring it to the same drive before setting up my Raid).

Oh, by the way, the Zotacs are worse than the Palits:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gf-gtx460-sli_2.html#sect0

Horrible coolers. They actually confuse it as the reference cooler which it isnt, and blame the GTX 460 SLI for being slower than a 5970 o.O. Horrible review full of lies!

The GeForce GTX 460 SLI is far from brilliant in this test. This test favors Nvidia, but the tested SLI tandem cannot overtake the Radeon HD 5970. Even though that’s a good result considering the pricing of these solutions, we expected more from the pair of GeForce GTX 460 1GB cards here.

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[ash_scotland88]

still waiting for my gtx460 GS to arrive

 

[skotish|]

Running 850/1700/2000 now temps in kombuster 75 with the fan @ 51%

 

[Kelt]

How many of you are actually running 850/1700/2000 OCCT stable ?

I'm running 880/1760/4200 @ 1.087V Game stable.

I do 3 runs of the Heaven benchmark, 30 mins of ATI Tool, and finally, the most important, gaming. If the OC survives that, it's good enough for me.

OCCT is the automotive equivalent of shoving nitrous oxide in a 100 mph car, getting it to run at 120 mph (which it's never going to do normally), and seeing if the engine overheats.

Totally artificial, and of no interest to me.

 

[Tysonator]

So, which should I get, the Gainwood 800Mhz 1Mb RAM or Gigabyte 715Mhz 1Mb. Then there is the Gaindwood 700Mhz 2Gb RAM !

 

[VaderDSL]

I'd steer clear of all of those, they sound like knock offs

I like my Gigabyte OC card though, 1Gb version.

 

[kitch9]

They are positioned differently that reduces the temps, and allows for higher overclocks according to what I read, as well as using the higher quality components that Asus + Gigabyte also use (and also, the reference GTX 460).

I worked for Pioneer for a number of years and all I can say is you are a marketers wet dream. MSI do not make components they just assemble components together, you are crazy if you think they go on some crusade when they receive specs to ensure they only use the most expensive components their buying department can find.

MSI advertise "Military grade components" only to admit when asked that they are the same components the reference design uses, as they are already military grade.........

I fail to get excited if they or you say things are better as "they've moved stuff."

 

[MOOGLEYS]

I worked for Pioneer for a number of years and all I can say is you are a marketers wet dream. MSI do not make components they just assemble components together, you are crazy if you think they go on some crusade when they receive specs to ensure they only use the most expensive components their buying department can find.

MSI advertise "Military grade components" only to admit when asked that they are the same components the reference design uses, as they are already military grade.........

I fail to get excited if they or you say things are better as "they've moved stuff."

I love all these military grade components remarks.. So what they mean is they are the cheapest components money can buy and then have been demanded to be made cheaper still not caring about reliabilty or useability in any way...

Always makes me chuckle...