470 gtx voltage edition..

[garyfl]

hey there, first post.

basically im building a new pc. not done it yet and im yet to put in my 470 gtx voltage edition by asus.

now this is my first pc since basically 2004 so as you imagine a HUGE step in performance.

just wanted to know 2 things really..

what with the new 258.96 drivers, how does it fair in games now ? i cant rly seem to find any recent benchies, all i can find are reviews from release date and close to that.

my second question, how much would i be able to overclock this card ? it will be in a haf x case with about 5 fans. what temps would i be looking at ?

cheers

 

[RavenXXX2]

Hi, yes the 470 is a great card and overclocks very well, 850 core is achievable with a minor volt increase, at this clock you can expect near enough 480 performance. Rroff a guy on this forum claims his 470 does not exceed 70c temps in games with 60% fan speed, now I'm not saying all 470's are the same but he has good case airflow as you will have with the superb hafx " so want that case " Driver wise I don't see many if any complaints on here or elsewhere, I certainly game well on a 480 and the latest WHQL drivers.

 

[Nerusy]

Raven you don't own a gtx 470 do you.

800 should be achievable, for 850 you will probably need max voltage at 1087v.

at 810 core 1800 memory you should equal the performance of 480

if you can find 259.32 drivers, they are fantastic and the latest smooth best ones.

Soon new beta drivers are coming out on monday

 

[RavenXXX2]

^^ it's very simple to trawl the GFX forums and get an idea of what 470's are doing overclock wise, check the EVGA forums out, all I have stated is perfectly feasible. 810 will not match a 480.

 

[Mr Krugga]

Just for the info, 15% increase in voltage isn't "minor" and will definitely shorten the GPU lifespan (dunno by how much). You need to keep the temps low to make sure it doesn't fail in a long run Also Rroff has a good and separate airflow for each component (graphics/CPU/PSU or whatever it was) thus the low temps. He also claims two other 470s he tested ran significantly hotter than his and he doesn't play any demanding games. It's a well known fact that with a standard cooler to keep the temps within 85*C and overclock, you need to ramp up the fan to some crazy levels. It's the cost of performance after all. Non-reference coolers do much better job in keeping these GPUs within safe margins.

^^ it's very simple to trawl the GFX forums and get an idea of what 470's are doing overclock wise, check the EVGA forums out, all I have stated is perfectly feasible. 810 will not match a 480.

I read on these forums on the other hand that many 470s don't achieve 850MHz on core and some struggle with 800MHz (dunno what's the user factor with those). Also 480 is 20-25% faster than 470 in all tasks/games, believing that Fermi overclocking scaling is all well (as you suggested earlier in the other thread), 30% overclock should do miracles and at least equal the performance of a stock 480. That is less than 790 on core. I believe it is right.

 

[Nerusy]

^^ it's very simple to trawl the GFX forums and get an idea of what 470's are doing overclock wise, check the EVGA forums out, all I have stated is perfectly feasible. 810 will not match a 480.

Most cards will do 800, 850 is for lucky ones.

at 810 gtx 470 matches stock 480 on average in games that are not limited by 470's smaller memory.

getting tired of your opinions that are biased depending on which card you have.

1075v is regarded as safe voltage by nvidia, 1087v is as high as everybody goes for 24/7 usage, as long as temps are not extreme its ok

Also in Microsoft update 259.47 drivers are released, people are reporting no difference/ worse performance so I'd stick with either official ones or 259.32

 

[RavenXXX2]

OT, OP can be rest assured of great performance over 750Mhz.

 

[Nerusy]

Got any links or is it just guess work?

And please less of the bias talk, why don't you go through my posts and come back with all the bias you are referring to.

You have been registered since July, please don't patronize me with " I'm tired " remarks. That's all I have to say on the matter.

OT, OP can be rest assured of great performance over 750Mhz.

Yeah I'm here since July and I am already tired of you flooding the forums with "hey I got this card and it outperforms any other card by 9999% it rocks and everybody should get it, also my card's family of cards is better than any other card".

Opinions are good but you flood forums and I mean flood with wrong, misleading info and I heard you've been trolling fermi before, so you always troll whatever side you're not on.

"850 core is achievable with a minor voltage tweak" 1087v is not minor, its max for 470.

850 is not achievable, only few lucky ones get 850 stable, with some superb air case cooling or being so lucky as to get a low stock voltage card (the "gold" ones are .925 and below)

what is achievable on average is 800, and even that is not 100% because temps may become a problem.

Finally you say 810 will not match gtx 480.

Look up results from overclocked gtx 470 to stock 480, at 800-810 core clock and 1800 memory it matches stock 480.

The only reason you say it wont is because you wouldn't want your precious 480 being outdone buy an oc'ed 470 because you need to justify your purchase don't you.

I am pretty sure everyone on these forums doesn't take you seriously apart from the newcomers, who you confuse with misleading information.

 

[garyfl]

thanks for the feedback guys, this is a really good forum, lots of feedback in such a short time well, this just in guys i got a second offer on ebay on a 480 gtx, basically the highest bidder didnt want it so he offered it me. 250 pounds. so im thinking of selling my 470gtx and paying little extra to go for 480 gtx. is this worth it ? its a pny so will i be able to oc it ? would i be able to use, say, mis afterburner ? ( did a bit of googling)

 

[RavenXXX2]

I'm not getting in to an argument with you but please keep up with the insults. I have edited my previous post as not to ruin the OP's thread and turn it in to a flame fest started by you, I suggest you do the same. My last on the matter I will not be responding to you again.

@ op a 480 is great @ 250, make sure you get all the warranty info with it if you decide to go through with it and yes and an overclocked 480 gives great performance.

 

[An Exception]

@ Op

STOP, that is how ebay scammers operate. Make sure your Paying via paypal at the very least, but you should definitely insist it goes though the bay...
I would stick with the 470 personally.

 

[Nerusy]

I'm not getting in to an argument with you but please keep up with the insults. I have edited my previous post as not to ruin the OP's thread and turn it in to a flame fest started by you, I suggest you do the same.

@ op a 480 is great @ 250, make sure you get all the warranty info with it if you decide to go through with it and yes and an overclocked 480 gives great performance.

There is no argument I am asking you to stop giving misleading information also there were no insults from my side.

Everything I wrote here is on the subject, real information about gtx 470's oc potential.

Msi afterburner works with any brand. £250 for gtx 480 sounds like a brilliant deal, good luck with it.

 

[RavenXXX2]

@ OP

Here's some vantage scores from the EVGA forums ,as you can see there are plenty of clocks over 800Mhz on air cooling. If you go through the 470 threads you can get an idea of how far a 470 can go, of course all 470 GPU's may not clock the same and your mileage will vary.

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=353319

Ahh Ejiz, the new member that constantly has a number of his posts removed by a mod..thin line..>

 

[Rroff]

Hi, yes the 470 is a great card and overclocks very well, 850 core is achievable with a minor volt increase, at this clock you can expect near enough 480 performance. Rroff a guy on this forum claims his 470 does not exceed 70c temps in games with 60% fan speed, now I'm not saying all 470's are the same but he has good case airflow as you will have with the superb hafx " so want that case " Driver wise I don't see many if any complaints on here or elsewhere, I certainly game well on a 480 and the latest WHQL drivers.

I think I just got lucky with mine... I've had a play with a few over the last few days (being flavor of the month and all) and they all run atleast 7C warmer with similiar settings even with good air flow.

For me drivers have been superb - can't complain yet.

Overclocking wise 800MHz should be an easy fit aslong as you have reasonable airflow in the case. Above that it'll depend on a lot of variables.

 

[garyfl]

@ Op

STOP, that is how ebay scammers operate. Make sure your Paying via paypal at the very least, but you should definitely insist it goes though the bay...
I would stick with the 470 personally.

well this is a private listing i was bidding on some one whos got 100% feedback. the guy wanted to do tri sli but dosent wanna go through with it. i know of two scams on ebay there ere listings of evga superclocked. but this guy is a private listing. but yeh i will be doing it via ebay/paypal and for extra security.. a credit card/visa.

 

[Marine Iguana]

Mine is sat @ 800Mhz and is on 24/7 doing Seti/folding no sweat current temps are 78°c with 63% fan @ 1.025mV. It will do 850 but needs more voltage and I only have a 800D so not good for air cooling once it is under water however it should do 850 all day

 

[Mr Krugga]

@ OP

Here's some vantage scores from the EVGA forums ,as you can see there are plenty of clocks over 800Mhz on air cooling. If you go through the 470 threads you can get an idea of how far a 470 can go, of course all 470 GPU's may not clock the same and your mileage will vary.

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=353319

Ahh Ejiz, the new member that constantly has a number of his posts removed by a mod..thin line..>

Dunno how you read these results mate but there are plenty more 700-800 clocks than 850+. They're just sorted in a way you see the better scores first...

 

[RavenXXX2]

Note that I stated 850 core is achievable, I never said it was 100 certain overclock 24/7 stable, will run furmark 24/7.

 

[Rroff]

850 is certainly achievable - but for most people you'd need good cooling and the balls/wallet to push the voltage up - I think most 470s would do it at 1.1v and a preferably an aftermarket/uprated cooler. Realistically your gonna hit around 800 within safe limits.

 

[madindehead]

Yeah I'm here since July and I am already tired of you flooding the forums with "hey I got this card and it outperforms any other card by 9999% it rocks and everybody should get it, also my card's family of cards is better than any other card".

Opinions are good but you flood forums and I mean flood with wrong, misleading info and I heard you've been trolling fermi before, so you always troll whatever side you're not on.

"850 core is achievable with a minor voltage tweak" 1087v is not minor, its max for 470.

850 is not achievable, only few lucky ones get 850 stable, with some superb air case cooling or being so lucky as to get a low stock voltage card (the "gold" ones are .925 and below)

what is achievable on average is 800, and even that is not 100% because temps may become a problem.

Finally you say 810 will not match gtx 480.

Look up results from overclocked gtx 470 to stock 480, at 800-810 core clock and 1800 memory it matches stock 480.

The only reason you say it wont is because you wouldn't want your precious 480 being outdone buy an oc'ed 470 because you need to justify your purchase don't you.

I am pretty sure everyone on these forums doesn't take you seriously apart from the newcomers, who you confuse with misleading information.

Lol. Calm down a bit I would hardly say Raven "floods the forums with misleading information".

As for the eBay thing, make sure you know exactly that this isn't a scam, because that sounds far too good for a GTX 480. If it's brand new, the guy must have a complex to sell it for £250, he's taking a huge loss.

From what I have read, the GTX 470 overclocks pretty well, but I couldn't say how much