I'm sick of foreign people

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franco_22 said:
They are xenophobic and racist.

While you are entitled to your opinion, it is illegal to be openly racist towards someone due to their race/sexual orientation/status/gender.
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I have no idea what laws or country you are talking about, it's certainly not illegal to be have or express racist views in the UK.

Broadcast media have certain laws preventing the publication and/or dissemination of racist material though. But this isn't the same thing. Not by a long shot. And if you were using race to incite violence, that's not legal either. Again not the same thing.

If you were an employer and discriminated against someone on the basis of race/gender, then that would be illegal. But that applies across the board (race, gender, disability, age, etc) not just race. And, again, it's not the same thing as having or expressing an opinion. It's when the expression of that opinion adversely affects someone else that the law steps in, and that's just as it should be.
 
franco_22 said:
They are xenophobic and racist.

While you are entitled to your opinion, it is illegal to be openly racist towards someone due to their race/sexual orientation/status/gender.
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Being a racist or having an opinion that may be deemed racist isn't illegal, discriminating against or harrasing/assaulting,etc someone because of their race is.
 
The UK suffers from all of the problems of extremely poor integration of foreign nationals.

It's not that they're foreign which is the problem, it's that they're not integrated.

Anyone who says OP is racist / xenophobic then you probably need to go back to reading the Guardian or agreeing with other middle class disabled black lesbians about the newest BBC article on the future of Tofu. :D

Edit: To clarify my position, one of my parents is an immigrant (Irish). Would you know it if you spoke to him or myself? No. We're integrated. We're not clinging to some stereotypical notion of Irishness and have fully embraced the 'When In Rome' attitude to living in a different country.
I'm not so bigoted and hateful that I would willfully impose my outside values on a country which has so graciously accepted me.
 
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I agree with the OP.

If I go on holiday to France for example I want to see French people and experience the French culture, same applies for anywhere else in the world. What I don't want is a mish mash of all cultures in one place...
 
Tbh I don't see what is so horribly wrong with the ops post ,there's nothing at all wrong with preferring to be around your own kinsman rather than the many immigrants he's finding himself surrounded by.

knickers in a twist over nothing .
 
Yamahahahahaha said:
The UK suffers from all of the problems of extremely poor integration of foreign nationals.

It's not that they're foreign which is the problem, it's that they're not integrated.

Anyone who says OP is racist / xenophobic then you probably need to go back to reading the Guardian or agreeing with other middle class disabled black lesbians about the newest BBC article on the future of Tofu. :D

Edit: To clarify my position, one of my parents is an immigrant (Irish). Would you know it if you spoke to him or myself? No. We're integrated. We're not clinging to some stereotypical notion of Irishness and have fully embraced the 'When In Rome' attitude to living in a different country.
I'm not so bigoted and hateful that I would willfully impose my outside values on a country which has so graciously accepted me.
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Show me where in what the OP said that says thay aren't integrating.
 
greywolf said:
I agree with the OP.

If I go on holiday to France for example I want to see French people and experience the French culture, same applies for anywhere else in the world. What I don't want is a mish mash of all cultures in one place...
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And if the culture is to be accepting of other cultures? So that in effect our culture incorporates lots of other cultures? Except that really we're talking about large cities generally here when we talk about a mish-mash of cultures (although I'm yet to be persuaded that it is a negative thing), small towns and villages tend to remain relatively unchanged so if you don't want anything approaching multiculturalism then don't live in a big city.

If you go to Paris or Berlin for instance then you'll find they're cities with significant proportions of non-natives - that's partly why they are successful large cities and because they're successful large cities they attract people, it's to a degree self-sustaining.
 
[FnG]magnolia;17272078 said:
If the OP is a Man of Honour then Dirty Dog should be made a Don.
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Indeed. The OP should stop living in poor areas. Strangely enough foreign people who come here for work in the way we need them to are poor, what the OP is getting fed up with is poor people.
 
franco_22 said:
This is madness :D
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No this is SPARRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!:D:D


And theres nothing illegal about having racist or xenophobic views...much like Canada where i lived for 20 odd yrs;). If that was the case then a shedload of people would be prison:p
 
If british colonists were alive today they would be horrified. I bet they are rolling in their graves from immigration on their lands:D.

The thing about London is that it is a city which is one of the most famous worldwide so it will always attract attention from all over the world. So people are always eager to see such a city though most of the attractions are only in and around cental london. Also it is not helped by the fact that london is a rich city with liberal outlook so for poor people around the world it is considered a haven from all the oppression they are facing back home.
 
semi-pro waster said:
And if the culture is to be accepting of other cultures? So that in effect our culture incorporates lots of other cultures? Except that really we're talking about large cities generally here when we talk about a mish-mash of cultures (although I'm yet to be persuaded that it is a negative thing), small towns and villages tend to remain relatively unchanged so if you don't want anything approaching multiculturalism then don't live in a big city.

If you go to Paris or Berlin for instance then you'll find they're cities with significant proportions of non-natives - that's partly why they are successful large cities and because they're successful large cities they attract people, it's to a degree self-sustaining.
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Small towns and villages in general remain unchanged currently, although with the current levels of immigration this will soon change. Even if immigration is stopped, immigrant birth increases over time will take case of the small towns and then you get the mish mash there also.

Cities can only house so many people and so people will be forced into surrounding smaller towns. There is already housing problems now, and building more and more homes is not the answer either. Simple fact is were full, over full.

Accepting other cultures is fine to a certain level, but a time comes when there are too many and the identities of the natives are lost. As the Australians say, love us or leave us. Some areas ive been to around London are now totally foreign and to be frank I feel intimidated when been in them with the look given to me of "your not one of us, why are you here".

Not what I call progress.
 
hurfdurf said:
Indeed. The OP should stop living in poor areas. Strangely enough foreign people who come here for work in the way we need them to are poor, what the OP is getting fed up with is poor people.
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What a load of old tosh you spout. :( "what the OP is fed up with is poor people, blah, blah, blah..."
The OP is fed up with what I'm also fed up with. The feeling that Englishness has been diluted to such a point that that it is seen as racist to be openly proud of your nation & hearing nothing but jibber jabber everywhere he goes.
I honestly despair when I see what the last decade has done to our population's self respect and national pride.
Mr Blair take a bow, you have successfully "rubbed the Right's nose in multiculturalism" to the detriment of our whole nation. And we wonder why Milliband is backing away from Nu-Labour? :eek: But it's too late, the damage has been done and the nation is ruined...again.
Unfortunately Cameron is no Thatcher. :(
 
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Deadly Ferret said:
Regrettably, I should have anticipated it would descend into a vitriolic petition to declare me a bigot, rather than produce any worthwhile opposing arguments.
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Unfortunately you didn't produce any worthwhile arguments for us to oppose ;)

For instance this:
Deadly Ferret said:
The point I wish to get across is that in contrast to the way in which most European capitals contain a majority population native to the respective countries of said cities, London contains a minority of English people amongst its population. I feel like I live in a land other than England, not just because I continually encounter foreign people whilst out and about, but also because the streets of London are awash with shops of a foreign nature. These people and businesses combine to make me feel 'not at home'.
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A minority? Really? I would be extremely interested to hear of even a single study which has found this.

As for multiculturalism in London, this in my opinion is a by product of London being possibly the greatest city in the world. One of the few (if not only) examples of a truly "Global City", London has everything. Is it any surprise that the people who go there aren't all English? If they were, would London be what it is today?

London is the jewel of your country and I don't think that would have been possible without its history of multiculturalism.
 
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