Will I benefit from Virgin 50meg with 54Mbps adaptors ?

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I am currently on Virgin Cable 20meg, and use Netgear WG111 802.11g 54 Mbps Wireless USB 2.0 Adapters through the house. If I upgrade to 50meg, they will give me a new router I take it, but will I see any extra speed with these existing WG111s ? It sounds like it shoild be fine in theory but...
 
Nah, those adaptors will be a bottleneck at around 20mb max.

To benefit from 50meg you'll need wireless N adaptors. The router VM provide you with will support N (dir615) so just buy some adaptors and all should be good :)
 
VM will also provide a single N dongle for free, though if you're extra nice to the engineer you might find he has a spare as I did. :D
 
The only issue you may have is that G and N don't work well together, in that any data transfer over a G connection will cause active N speeds to massively decrease. Really it's best to upgrade your whole network to N, where you can (mobile phones are obviously the exception).

Try it and see, I suppose.
 
Hmm... the laptop will be an issue, it will only have G built in, would need a separate adaptor for that too then
 
Might be just as easy to replace the Mini-PCI wifi card in the laptop. I done this recently for my brothers Dell, all I had to do was remove a panel on the underside of the laptop, unclick old card and put in the new one. Was only a tenner too and far preferable to having a USB dongle sticking out the side :)
 
Nah, those adaptors will be a bottleneck at around 20mb max.

To benefit from 50meg you'll need wireless N adaptors. The router VM provide you with will support N (dir615) so just buy some adaptors and all should be good :)


Would they be a bottleneck for the upload speed though ? That is the major benefit to me of the move to 50meg, rather than the faster download speed.
 
Apart from upload being fine, more devices will be able to connect at full speed at the same time.
 
So with the existing adaptors and the 20meg connection, say two machines downloading at the same time - each gets half of 20 = 10 (theoretically, it is less obviously)

Are you saying that with the existing adaptors and the 50meg connection, say two machines downloading at the same time - each gets the maximum those adaptors can support, around 20 ? (2 x 20 is less than 50, theoretically)
 
So with the existing adaptors and the 20meg connection, say two machines downloading at the same time - each gets half of 20 = 10 (theoretically, it is less obviously)

Are you saying that with the existing adaptors and the 50meg connection, say two machines downloading at the same time - each gets the maximum those adaptors can support, around 20 ? (2 x 20 is less than 50, theoretically)

No. Wireless is a shared medium and so is also half duplex. The 54meg maximum at the access point is shared out between all wireless clients including both upload and download.
 
Right, I'm going to go ahead with this upgrade. A couple of questions about router placement: Currently the modem is upstairs in the spare bedroom, with the router out on the landing by the stairs. Gives perfect wireless coverage upstairs and downstairs, probably perfect placement for it. Except, the downside is that it is not close to any PC, so I can't plug any PC into it via ethernet cable... What I ideally would want to do is get the engineer to move the modem and router downstairs in the lounge, where 3 PCs could be plugged in via ethernet cable downstairs, leaving 1 PC upstairs plus the notebook. But of course then I'm concerned about the wireless signal reaching upstairs, say into the room directly above the lounge. The house is a standard 1930s semi with breezeblock internal walls (or whatever it was they used !). Has anyone has experience with this type of house, and how far the signal goes ?
 
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