I'm sick of foreign people
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I disagree...
There are some words, the "N" word for people of African decent that whilst slang have picked up negative connotations and are reasonable to consider offensive or racist by default.
I don't believe "Chinky" has any negative connotations other than a nick name (in my experienced more often used for a restaurant than a person), much the same a "Yank" for Americans or "Aussie" for Australians, Paddys, Jocks, Frogs etc. Whilst perhaps not accurate or even a preferable name for someones country of origin or race, the nick names are not inherently offensive unless used in that context. In fact as mentioned, they are often used as a term of endearment or familiarity.
Having said that I will concede you perhaps have to earn the right to use a nickname, the same as any kind of nickname once you get to know someone. Clearly, walking up to a stranger in Belfast and calling them "Paddy" is not going to end well. When i'm in the states Americans referring to me as a Limey can be irritating if they don't know me but fine when they do.
If you take the whole being offended thing too far it just loses any credibility. It just takes a bit of common sense and taking the context into account, not just spotting a specific word and being offended by default.
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Since you probably have sufficient insight to realise that Chinese people may not appreciate being referred to as "Chinkys", have you ever considered having the good manners to call them Chinese - just a thought, just a thought.
As to the suggestion that it anyone in their right minds would consider 'Chinky' to be a term of "endearment" along the lines of "Love", "Darlin'", "Ducks" or "Mate" - yeah right, sure
Oddly around here you often "go to the Chinky for a Chinese..." Just to really confuse matters
People who complain about such matters, and state that Britain should be Britain, they're going against the ideas the British Empire had with colonisation. If "true" Britains hated the idea of foreigners, the Empire wouldn't have went around the whole world, setting up colonies, and bringing back aspects of those countries with them over their however many years.
I'm pretty sure they brought people back with them too.
Britain by its very definition is multicultural, it always has been. It's only the retarded, for want of a better word (I can't think of any other way to describe the racists in this thread) people who even have an issue with it. They feel threatened by things out of their bubble that they call reality and lash out.
Everything is extremely black and white to them, and they prove it all the time. Especially the op, complaining about foriegn people speaking their own languages, what do you expect?
There's speaking your own language to your own family and friends, and there's refusing to learn and speak the country's language at all, they're both very different things.
That's along the lines of stating they shouldn't eat their own "home" foods, but instead eat only food available from British suppliers, grown in Britain. I hate it when I see a foreign person working in the public domain (bus drivers for example) who literally can't speak English. It baffles me as to why they'd get a job, where it can be important to communicate with people, when they can't speak the language?
But then I can't blame the person themselves, they're trying to earn a living so they can eat and have a place to live. So instead I was annoyed with the bus company instead.
The distinctions are important, it's again not like you're in a group of people, and two of them keep talking to eachother in their own language making it look like they're trying to "Hide" something, that's rude, but it's not the same as seeing a foriegn family walking down the street talking in their native language.
How about, as well as telling people they must speak English at all times while in England, also telling them to learn an English accent too, so they don't sound foreign?
Rubbish, they did it to make fortune and wealth, look at the US of A with Africans and how that has made America, its great when you let a few in but when they start breeding like rabbits you end up with whole villages and towns with a foreign culture in England or any other country, do you see villages in Pakistan or Iran with total English population with a fish and chip shop or catholic church?
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The day humanity lives in harmony is the day that people stop segregating themselves into sub-societies and blindly following those societies like they are ingrained in their DNA.
You're not English, you're human. Sure, you were born geographically on a lump of land which belongs to a government and as such you were processed by that government as a member of their society. It's nice, it feels friendly, it doesn't feel like you're just another headcount towards the mechanics of mass organisation, granted. But you are. Your social liberties, your leaps and bounds that you have over other countries are not because you're a great member of that society, it's just so that you can pay your way out of the debt that you owe that society through work, taxes, retail purchases, tourism and input. You're just a packaged investment like the others born every minute in the UK.
You're lucky. You're probably a white male with good British heritage. You're a tiny proportion of a global population, and you have lucked out. You started with no handicap in life, no back footing. You were born at the front of the queue, pretty much as close to the front as you can get, relatively speaking.
And so what now, you think that your social liberty (via luck no less) entitles you to some kind of casual bigotry over people in this world who are trying to share a slice of what you take for granted? Because these freedoms come too easily to you, others should take a back seat and accept a lesser or different way of living?
After all, it's not like the massive narrow-minded nature of blind following is the fuel for most conflict in this world.
That was sarcasm, by the way.
Imagine if we lived in a world where you didn't judge someone for being on a different street to you, or a football team for being different to yours, or a southerner for not being from the north, or a country for not speaking or acting as yours does. Will it take a band of aliens destroying the world to finally realise that our stupid little societies are different versions of the same thing, all living for the same reason and enjoying the same life that they try to extract as much happiness as possible from? You're a person, others are different, no two are the same, but that's the beauty of it.
You're not English, you're human. Sure, you were born geographically on a lump of land which belongs to a government and as such you were processed by that government as a member of their society. It's nice, it feels friendly, it doesn't feel like you're just another headcount towards the mechanics of mass organisation, granted. But you are. Your social liberties, your leaps and bounds that you have over other countries are not because you're a great member of that society, it's just so that you can pay your way out of the debt that you owe that society through work, taxes, retail purchases, tourism and input. You're just a packaged investment like the others born every minute in the UK.
You're lucky. You're probably a white male with good British heritage. You're a tiny proportion of a global population, and you have lucked out. You started with no handicap in life, no back footing. You were born at the front of the queue, pretty much as close to the front as you can get, relatively speaking.
And so what now, you think that your social liberty (via luck no less) entitles you to some kind of casual bigotry over people in this world who are trying to share a slice of what you take for granted? Because these freedoms come too easily to you, others should take a back seat and accept a lesser or different way of living?
After all, it's not like the massive narrow-minded nature of blind following is the fuel for most conflict in this world.
That was sarcasm, by the way.
Imagine if we lived in a world where you didn't judge someone for being on a different street to you, or a football team for being different to yours, or a southerner for not being from the north, or a country for not speaking or acting as yours does. Will it take a band of aliens destroying the world to finally realise that our stupid little societies are different versions of the same thing, all living for the same reason and enjoying the same life that they try to extract as much happiness as possible from? You're a person, others are different, no two are the same, but that's the beauty of it.
One of the best posts ive read on here, period. Need more of this.
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then you wouldnt be living, nor would you be human.
the mind makes judgements, some for better, some for worse.
but anyway people are tribalistic by nature. sure it doesnt matter which lump of rock you were born to. just or who you were born of actually. or who you are related to...
oh wait, yes it does matter to practically every individual on the planet.
Humanism for me is an ideal that promotes individual awareness, not reform. It's not a realistic expectation, but on an individual level it can change a perception or way of thinking.
Unless you're like this guy, whereby the ideal just flies completely overhead.
newsflash: People are stupid. A person? Sometimes not.
Exactly.
I can't imagine how miserable some people must be that they get upset by such trivial things as living amongst people of other cultures.
It goes to show that no matter how advanced we think we are as a species, we are nothing more than animals, greedy and territorial.
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