Job Offer Withdrawn

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britboy4321 said:
Remember a verbal offer is just as legally binding as a written offer.
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Are you 100% sure?

I had a sort of similar experience a year back with being unfairly dismissed after two months work before "the woman that sorts legal stuff out" had given me a contract. I was then told that verbal offers don't count and if I didn't have it in writing there was nothing to be done.
 
twentyone said:
Are you 100% sure?

I had a sort of similar experience a year back with being unfairly dismissed after two months work before "the woman that sorts legal stuff out" had given me a contract. I was then told that verbal offers don't count and if I didn't have it in writing there was nothing to be done.
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There's nothing special about a contract being written down. It just provides clear evidence. A contract can be made verbally, just make sure you have a lot of witnesses or a recording.
 
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ghost101 said:
There's nothing special about a contract being written down. It just provides clear evidence. A contract can be made verbally, just make sure you have a lot of witnesses or a recording.
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There is the problem. You may have one or two people who spoke to you and offered you the job, but they can simply deny it.

That is of course the wrong thing to do but I wouldn't put it past any company.

If they do that, then you can't prove anything.
 
Robboftw said:
There is the problem. You may have one or two people who spoke to you and offered you the job, but they can simply deny it.

That is of course the wrong thing to do but I wouldn't put it past any company.

If they do that, then you can't prove anything.
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In his case, the fact he worked their for 2 months I think will have a lot of weight in terms of a verbal contract with implied stipulations. Exactly how much weight, probably will need professional help.
 
You really need to look at the conditions of the offer of employment. Most will include receipt of satisfactory references and include a period of probation.

Anyway a verbal offer of employment may be legally binding, but as that position is no longer available the contract is void. You may have some argument if you were overlooked for a still existing vacancy on grounds of race or religious discrimination otherwise I am afraid you are out of luck.

It is unfair and a crappy thing to do to someone but it is not illegal and I would chalk it up to experience and withdraw your resignation from your current position forthwith.
 
ghost101 said:
In his case, the fact he worked their for 2 months I think will have a lot of weight in terms of a verbal contract with implied stipulations. Exactly how much weight, probably will need professional help.
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Sadly it's too late now. When I was looking into the problem I called ACAS and some other sources for help but was simply told without a written contract there was no way to sort anything (including reclaiming money I should have been paid) out.

Was a private business. Only had the owner and his loyal doormat of an employee that had worked there for 15 years on minimum wage (with a job position that pays a lot) and some woman outside of the company who sometimes dealt with finances. Don't think they would have cared if they lied or not :(
 
my current company did this to my little brother, they sent him an email offering him a job, then a signed and scanned copy of the contract which he was told to wait to sign until he'd received the paper version through the post - which never arrived. the offer was then "withdrawn" on the whim of the owner. not happy.
 
Well it was my last day at work today and I had no chance of getting my old job back but the new one phoned up and said head office had reconsidered and realized they were in the wrong so they offered me the original full time contract. Alls well that ends well but I'll certainly not make the same mistake again of not getting a contract signed before handing in my notice. Thanks to all those who offered advice :).
 
Hostile17 said:
Well it was my last day at work today and I had no chance of getting my old job back but the new one phoned up and said head office had reconsidered and realized they were in the wrong so they offered me the original full time contract. Alls well that ends well but I'll certainly not make the same mistake again of not getting a contract signed before handing in my notice. Thanks to all those who offered advice :).
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Congrats mate, good to see a nice result at the end of all that!
 
Glad to hear that you will now have the job you initially went for.

Hopefully it won't take long to get over the bloody stressful wekk you must have just had, seems the woman who said she's ring them and try to get it sorted did just that.
 
Hostile17 said:
Well it was my last day at work today and I had no chance of getting my old job back but the new one phoned up and said head office had reconsidered and realized they were in the wrong so they offered me the original full time contract. Alls well that ends well but I'll certainly not make the same mistake again of not getting a contract signed before handing in my notice. Thanks to all those who offered advice :).
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Lucky! Very good for you though :) I'm glad to see this company had some common sense and corrected their error.
 
twentyone said:
Are you 100% sure?

I had a sort of similar experience a year back with being unfairly dismissed after two months work before "the woman that sorts legal stuff out" had given me a contract. I was then told that verbal offers don't count and if I didn't have it in writing there was nothing to be done.
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They were fobbing you off or they didn't know the law themselves. A contract is a contract. You can write it on paper, speak it, tattoo it on your bum...the medium doesn't matter. If there is offer and acceptance, a contract exists.

I work for a gambling business. There was a case a while back involving bingo. Someone won £100K. For years, they had been sharing all wins with a friend they played bingo with (i.e. if either of them won, they each got half). She balked at sharing £100K though, and kept it all. The friend (now ex-friend) took her to court and won. It was ruled that the winner had to give £50K to the other person because the two of them had verbally agreed to split all bingo winnings - a legally binding contract.

The issue is proving that a verbal contract was made. If the other person is willing to perjure themselves and the contract wasn't recorded, how can you prove it ever happened?
 
Thanks for the info! Well if they (the two employees) decided to lie then.. well I got nothing to prove directly other than family and friends knowing I worked there but never actually seeing me working.

To be honest after all the advice we got from various places I just abandoned it and moved on. Just glad I got out of there before being royally screwed over at another time that could have been worse :) It's a very small community around here though and I think they lost quite a big business deal because of the way they 'got rid of me'. They will get what they deserve one day.
 
Hostile17 said:
Well it was my last day at work today and I had no chance of getting my old job back but the new one phoned up and said head office had reconsidered and realized they were in the wrong so they offered me the original full time contract. Alls well that ends well but I'll certainly not make the same mistake again of not getting a contract signed before handing in my notice. Thanks to all those who offered advice :).
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Please confirm that you have now signed a contract because if you havent you really havent made much more progress since your OP...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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