Couple fined for getting off train two stops early. Thoughts?

Pathetic if you ask me, they got off early, not late, even if the ticket was "heavily" discounted it is still a joke to fine them twice the standard rate, or anything at all. More bad press for SWtrains.

Incidentally, you can't get to london direct from eastleigh, you have to go from parkway unless they changed earlier iirc [/pedant].
 
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Sp00n said:
Incidentally, you can't get to london direct from eastleigh, you have to go from parkway unless they changed earlier iirc [/pedant].
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There is a stopping service that goes from Southampton Central > Airport Parkway > Eastleigh > Winchester etc to London Waterloo.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
There is a stopping service that goes from Southampton Central > Airport Parkway > Eastleigh > Winchester etc to London Waterloo.
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In which case why would they have got on a stopping service when a fast train to Southampton would have been much quicker, even if it left earlier...
There must have been the intent to get off at Eastleigh before they boarded the train.
 
rypt said:
And why can you not hop off the train and then try another one? What if you want to go to the toilet on the platform, or get some food?
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You can't do that because the terms and conditions of the ticket that you bought say that you can't.
 
rypt said:
T&Cs can say whatever they like, it doesn't make them legally enforceable necessarily due to unfair clauses and so on
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Yes, I know, but no one has yet shown that the terms in question are unfair, beyond the foot-stamping fist-pounding "IT'S NOT FAIR!" tantrum degree of unfair.
 
Yet another example of the totaly crass pricing system we have for trains in thos country which should come as no surprise to anybody. Why they can't just make it so ticket price is related to distance and you automatically get the cheapest tickets I don't know it seems to work for most other countries.
 
vonhelmet said:
Yes, I know, but no one has yet shown that the terms in question are unfair, beyond the foot-stamping fist-pounding "IT'S NOT FAIR!" tantrum degree of unfair.
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The onus is on the prosecution to show they suffered a loss though, this case is so retarded I would be shocked if there was case law where something similar was brought to court.
 
Wasn't there advice in another thread about avoiding these fines as the collector may not be authorised to do so and that the fine is not legal anyway? Regardless of the byelaws involved, the only thing you HAVE to do is give correct details to the inspector.
 
Energize said:
The onus is on the prosecution to show they suffered a loss though, this case is so retarded I would be shocked if there was case law where something similar was brought to court.
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Assuming there aren't any other bylaws in question such as the National Rail Conditions of Carriage or something really obscure.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Assuming there aren't any other bylaws in question such as the National Rail Conditions of Carriage or something really obscure.
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Unfortunately in this country you can never rule out such totalitarian laws. Your always best paying by cash on the railways these days, lest you are accosted by some scumbag trying to enforce some ridiculous t&c's.
 
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seems fair since it was a discounted ticket to go specific station to station. they got discounted to go to a specific stop which they didnt do.
 
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Once had to buy new tickets for not sitting in my reserved seat because some woman was occupying it and refused to move. I thought it wasn't such a big problem and I didn't want to start arguing with what looked like a pitbull, the train was pretty much empty too. £42 or so wasted.

Not bothered about public transport any more. Rather just drive.

It seems a bit strict to be fined for getting off too early. Maybe they realised it was better to get off there? I'd understand it if it was a stop or two after.
 
utajoker said:
seems fair since it was a discounted ticket to go specific station to station. they got discounted to go to a specific stop which they didnt do.
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And how does getting off at an earlier stop inconvenience the train company - since the train will stop anyway? what if it had been an emergency (not saying that it was).
 
dlknight said:
And how does getting off at an earlier stop inconvenience the train company - since the train will stop anyway? what if it had been an emergency (not saying that it was).
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It defeats the point of subsidising the fares, it was cheaper to go to Southampton for a reason, so people not going to Southampton and getting off earlier is defeating the point of the promotional ticket.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
A reason such as?
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Could be anything, local government wanting to get people to come to Southampton from London for a day out would be the obvious on, increasing tourism in Southampton

London (obviously) has a lot of people, a bit pot to try and get a few tourists along from.
 
thepeganator said:
Could be anything, local government wanting to get people to come to Southampton from London for a day out would be the obvious on, increasing tourism in Southampton

London (obviously) has a lot of people, a bit pot to try and get a few tourists along from.
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Don't buy that at all...

And regardless, if someone was subsidising it, what are the chances of the train company not getting the money still?

Fares too expensive, end of...

Would this happen on a bus?
 
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