Judging by past events, they hardly need the excuse. All this hatred and violent/fatal one-upmanship is pathetic all round, but it'd be foolish to blame religion as anything other than an excuse as opposed to a cause, in the vast majority of cases.
Koran burning in reaction to 9/11
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Judging by past events, they hardly need the excuse. All this hatred and violent/fatal one-upmanship is pathetic all round, but it'd be foolish to blame religion as anything other than an excuse as opposed to a cause, in the vast majority of cases.
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I support this, a group of people annoying another group.. Hopefully they will all kill each other!
Putting aside the fact that Bibles have been burnt, surely the level of difference is only what you yourself place on it? Considering the US tried to pass a law at some point banning the burning of their flag (thankfully it failed) it seems that they hold it in quite high esteem. So why is it OK to burn that but not a book?
WITH FIRE, its the only way to be sure
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Well I'm asuming that this Parstor dude has acctually read the damn thing?
Been reading it myself out of curiosity and if I'm any thing I am an Athiest , and the actual normal Quran is an extention to and is tolerable of Christianity, Judaism, Bhudism, and talks of Adam , Eve and all that stuff.
So it's a bit ignorant to burn something that is relative to all faiths.
Guys is a class a pratt IMO. Unless he is burning the Jihad edition then good on him.
P.s I know the spelling is terrible!
Been reading it myself out of curiosity and if I'm any thing I am an Athiest , and the actual normal Quran is an extention to and is tolerable of Christianity, Judaism, Bhudism, and talks of Adam , Eve and all that stuff.
So it's a bit ignorant to burn something that is relative to all faiths.
Guys is a class a pratt IMO. Unless he is burning the Jihad edition then good on him.
P.s I know the spelling is terrible!
People may think that this "pastor" is just a red neck hillbilly, (which he is to some extent), but fail to see the real picture here. The act of burning the Korans is trivial, it is the response he is after. If the muslim world takes to the streets in protest he will be showing the world that he is right, that Islam is a religion of dangerous fanatics.
We all saw this years ago with the cartoon riots. A westerner managed to get the average joe in many arabic countries to fierce protests in the streets by doing nothing more than publishing a silly drawing. This was a turning point for many people in the west. If the average man could be so easily enraged then it truly shows that this particular religion is one of dangerous fanatics. Firebrands and demogogues may have played it up, but the people took to the streets none the less. While Christians may find it distasteful if some imans in Tehran burn some bibles in the streets, public outrage in the form of rowdy protests are unlikely. -1 to the arabic world this time.
Fastforward a few years and we saw Geert Wilders here in NL try to use this dynamic to prove his point. By releasing the controversial Fitna film he was hoping for public unrest, so he could point to it and say "See I told you they are all fanatics." +1 to Dutch muslims for not reacting in any outrageous way.
And here we are today, with this pastor threatening to burn some Korans. He is just hoping like Wilders that the muslim world will react violently, even better if some soldiers get killed in Afganistan, and better yet is if Al Queda commits a terrorist act in revenge.
The bottom line is that the worst possible thing the muslim world can do is react violently if he does do it. They will just be playing into his hands and allow themselves to be manipulated. In the name of peace I hope the muslim world just expresses it's disgust thru words and not actions if he does do it.
We all saw this years ago with the cartoon riots. A westerner managed to get the average joe in many arabic countries to fierce protests in the streets by doing nothing more than publishing a silly drawing. This was a turning point for many people in the west. If the average man could be so easily enraged then it truly shows that this particular religion is one of dangerous fanatics. Firebrands and demogogues may have played it up, but the people took to the streets none the less. While Christians may find it distasteful if some imans in Tehran burn some bibles in the streets, public outrage in the form of rowdy protests are unlikely. -1 to the arabic world this time.
Fastforward a few years and we saw Geert Wilders here in NL try to use this dynamic to prove his point. By releasing the controversial Fitna film he was hoping for public unrest, so he could point to it and say "See I told you they are all fanatics." +1 to Dutch muslims for not reacting in any outrageous way.
And here we are today, with this pastor threatening to burn some Korans. He is just hoping like Wilders that the muslim world will react violently, even better if some soldiers get killed in Afganistan, and better yet is if Al Queda commits a terrorist act in revenge.
The bottom line is that the worst possible thing the muslim world can do is react violently if he does do it. They will just be playing into his hands and allow themselves to be manipulated. In the name of peace I hope the muslim world just expresses it's disgust thru words and not actions if he does do it.
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If someone killed a (select) member of my family I would hunt them down myself.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/285123/christians_in_gaza_fear_for_their_lives.html
and lots more when you google it.
But yeah I think I hold the representation of your will to burn a living human being above that of burning a book on the "offence" scale...
Not only Muslims burn Effigies or Flags. The Americans had a good old go at the Union Jack and effigies of BP's CEO if I recall, and it seems to be a common trait outside Western Europe regardless of religious context.
Wouldn't it be nice if everyone who feels deeply offended by this action of an idiot, stops protesting / going ape-****, step back, realise it's a book and their faith will not be affected and go about their normal day to day lives?
Those reacting to this situation are just feeding the troll.
Those reacting to this situation are just feeding the troll.
I never said they did
Sorry, I thought that was what you were implying.
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you will need a rowing boat and watch out for any banjo playing hillbillys on the way
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Nah I was just saying i find effigy burning slightly more offensive than bible burning.
Though both are still insignificant on the offence scale compared to people who talk at the theatre.
I find the whole offence thing a bit silly tbh. We should be more concerned with what is really wrong with the world, then maybe some of these groups may find themselves isolated and without the support required to continue. ETA is a good example.
Heretics...Burn Them.
In the special hell.
Yep like this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-11233757
This is terrible, not only does it mean that one man had been forced to go without the glorious bacon for so long he had to resort to theft but that e live in a society that the theft of bacon is even a considerable course of action
Something must be done.
Yep like this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-11233757
This is terrible, not only does it mean that one man had been forced to go without the glorious bacon for so long he had to resort to theft but that e live in a society that the theft of bacon is even a considerable course of action
Something must be done.
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