Call of Duty: Black Ops

E61 Grouphead said:
Kilstreak kills not counting towards your next kill streak should help too.
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So you can no longer do what you can do in MW2?, say Predator, Harrier, 2 kills with Harrier nets you a pavelow?

Not sure if that will make camping worse or not? If you have to get 11 weapons kills I see people moving for objectives even less???

I'd rather just see less killstreaks 3 UAV, 7 some kind of airstrike and 9 or 11 for some kind of chopper or to counter all the over powered killstreaks 1000 points for each objective won.

I remember in COD4 I used to go all out for flags and never much cared about streaks or deaths. I could regularly top the leaderboard with less than 5 kills but lots of captures.

The last few days I've been capturing flags and finishing with the most won accolade but am nowhere near the top. They need to encourage objective winning with a massive XP boost for doing it.
 
dannyjo22 said:
So you can no longer do what you can do in MW2?, say Predator, Harrier, 2 kills with Harrier nets you a pavelow?
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That's right. Hopefully this will mean less boosting or less dangerous boosters at least.

dannyjo22 said:
Not sure if that will make camping worse or not? If you have to get 11 weapons kills I see people moving for objectives even less???

I'd rather just see less killstreaks 3 UAV, 7 some kind of airstrike and 9 or 11 for some kind of chopper or to counter all the over powered killstreaks 1000 points for each objective won.

I remember in COD4 I used to go all out for flags and never much cared about streaks or deaths. I could regularly top the leaderboard with less than 5 kills but lots of captures.

The last few days I've been capturing flags and finishing with the most won accolade but am nowhere near the top. They need to encourage objective winning with a massive XP boost for doing it.
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I have got 11 kils in a row without kill streaks only a handfull of times, and that's after 20 days of play :o

I don't play the objective games myself but I would agree that those modes need to be about the objectives.
 
dannyjo22 said:
So you can no longer do what you can do in MW2?, say Predator, Harrier, 2 kills with Harrier nets you a pavelow?

Not sure if that will make camping worse or not? If you have to get 11 weapons kills I see people moving for objectives even less???

I'd rather just see less killstreaks 3 UAV, 7 some kind of airstrike and 9 or 11 for some kind of chopper or to counter all the over powered killstreaks 1000 points for each objective won.

I remember in COD4 I used to go all out for flags and never much cared about streaks or deaths. I could regularly top the leaderboard with less than 5 kills but lots of captures.

The last few days I've been capturing flags and finishing with the most won accolade but am nowhere near the top. They need to encourage objective winning with a massive XP boost for doing it.
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The other night I was playing CTF and was flag running I ended up capturing most flags, having the longest killstreak (30 something), most kills as flag carrier, most flags blocked, longest killstreak, MVP, highest K/D ratio of course I wasn't awarded all the accolades but the leaderboard said it all. It was one of them youtube Sandy Ravage moments. It was also really good fun.
 
dannyjo22 said:
So you can no longer do what you can do in MW2?, say Predator, Harrier, 2 kills with Harrier nets you a pavelow?

Not sure if that will make camping worse or not? If you have to get 11 weapons kills I see people moving for objectives even less???

I'd rather just see less killstreaks 3 UAV, 7 some kind of airstrike and 9 or 11 for some kind of chopper or to counter all the over powered killstreaks 1000 points for each objective won.

I remember in COD4 I used to go all out for flags and never much cared about streaks or deaths. I could regularly top the leaderboard with less than 5 kills but lots of captures.

The last few days I've been capturing flags and finishing with the most won accolade but am nowhere near the top. They need to encourage objective winning with a massive XP boost for doing it.
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A camper moaning about camping? :p
 
E61 Grouphead said:
I don't play the objective games myself but I would agree that those modes need to be about the objectives.
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You have to be carefull about Objective games though, if you are playing CTF for example with a team you must arrange before hand who is doing what because if all 6 of you are running around you are going to lose. We always try to arrange before hand who is going to do what. Usually we have two running flag two mid map slaying for killstreaks and two camping flag. This usually works but sometimes you can have randoms on the other team that all camp thier own flag which makes the game mode unplayable.
 
5punk3monk3y said:
You have to be carefull about Objective games though, if you are playing CTF for example with a team you must arrange before hand who is doing what because if all 6 of you are running around you are going to lose. We always try to arrange before hand who is going to do what. Usually we have two running flag two mid map slaying for killstreaks and two camping flag. This usually works but sometimes you can have randoms on the other team that all camp thier own flag which makes the game mode unplayable.
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Well thats fair enough. I'm just thinking of a random solo player going into a CTF for example with other randoms, and then just playing it like TDM. I can't see anything wrong with members of a team adopting certain roles in order to achieve an objective :)
 
I tend to find when i have played CTF on my own, that the majority of players will play to the objective and some defend and some run.
 
updated list of thnigs in game taken from callofduty.com :D

PRIMARY-SNIPER

-Dragunov
-WA2000
-L96A1
-CLASSIFIED

PRIMARY-SUBMACHINEGUN

-MP5K
-Skorpion
-MAC11
-AK74u
-Uzi
-PM63
-MPL
-Spectre
-CLASSIFIED

PRIMARY - SHOTGUN

-Olympia
-Stakeout
-SPAS
-Ithaca
-KS23
-CLASSIFIED

PRIMARY - LIGHT MACHINEGUN

-HK21
-RPK
-M60
-CLASSIFIED

PRIMARY - ASSAULT RIFLE

-M16
-Enfield
-M14
-Famas
-Galil
-AUG
-FN FAL
-AK47
-Commando
-CLASSIFIED (G11)

PRIMARY ATTACHMENTS

-Extended Mag
-Dual Mag
-ACOG Sight
-Red Dot Sight
-Reflex
-Rapid Fire
-Suppressor
-Flamethrower
-Grenade Launcher

SECONDARIES

-Ballistic Knife
-Crossbow
-M72 Law
-RPG
-Strela-3
-China Lake
-ASP
-M1911
-Makarov
-Python
-cz75 (might be classified)
-CLASSIFIED

SECONDARY ATTACHMENTS

-ACOG Sight
-Snub Nose
-Speed Reloader
-Dual Wield
-Upgraded iron sight
-Extended mag
-Suppresor

CAMOUFLAGE

-None
-Dusty
-Ice
-Red
-Olive
-Nevada
-Sahara
-ERDL
-Tiger
-Berlin
-Warsaw
-Siberia
-Yukon
-Woodland
-Flora

RETICLE DESIGN

-Dot
-Semi-Circle
-Lines With Dot
-Circle
-Smiley Face
-Arrows Horizontal
-Arrows Vertical
-Arrows With Dot
-Bones
-Burst
-Circle Within A Circle
-Circle
-Circle Outline
-Circle Outline With DOt
-Circle With Crosshairs
-Circle With Outer Lines
-Circle with Inner Lines
-Circle With Arrows
-Circle With Triangles
-Outer Crosshairs
-Small Crosshairs
-Large Crosshairs
-Crosshairs
-Crosshairs With Dot
-Diamond
-Diamond Outline
-Heart
-Radiation
-Skull
-Square
-Square Outline
-Square With Crosshairs
-Star
-Three Dots
-Treyarch
-Triangle
-Outer triangles
-X
-X With Dot
-Ying Yang

RETICLE COLOR

-Red
-Green
-Blue
-Purple
-Teal
-Yellow
-Orange

GEAR-LETHAL

-Frag
-Semtex
-Tomahawk

GEAR-TACTICAL

-Willy Pete (smoke grenade)
-Nova Gas
-Flashbang
-Concussion
-Decoy

GEAR-EQUIPMENT

-Camera Spike
-C4
-Tactical Insertion
-Jammer
-Motion Sensor
-Claymore

PERK 1

-Lightweight
-Scavenger
-Ghost
-Flak Jacket
-Hardline

PERK 2

-Hardened
-Scout
-Steady Aim
-Sleight of Hand
-Warlord

PERK 3

-Marathon
-Ninja
-Second Chance
-Hacker
-Tactical Mask

KILLSTREAK / KILLS REQUIRED

-Spy Plane / 3
-RC-XD / 3
-Counter-Spy Plane / 4
-Sam Turret / 4
-Care Package / 5
-Napalm Stike / 5
-Sentry Gun / 6
-Mortar Team / 6
-Attack Helicopter / 7
-Valkyrie Rockets / 7
-Blackbird / 8
-Rolling Thunder / 8
-Chopper Gunner / 9
-Attack Dogs / 11
-Gunship / 11

CARE PACKAGE – as always, this will be a mixed bag of all the goodies Black Ops has to offer, but there will also be two exclusive items found only within a care package. These two items are:

The Grim Reaper
The Death Machine
The Death Machine is reportedly similar to a gatlin gun while the Grim Reaper is being called a ‘rocket launcher type’.

GAME MODES

Wager mode aside, we will be seeing our good ole favorites making it back onto the playlists.

-Headquaters
-Demolition
-Search and Destroy
-Capture the Flag
-Domination
-Team Deathmatch
-Free For All
-Headquaters

FACEPAINT

-Stalker
-Highlander
-Zulu
-Commando
-Banshee
-Dutch
-Blitz
-Mantis
-Sandman
-Militia
-Apache
-Crom
-Tundra
-Sidewinder

MAPS

Summit – a snowy mountain base
Launch – the rocket map we see in the teaser trailer.
Radiation – an abandoned power station
Cracked – a secluded town in shambles

MERCENARY CONTRACTS

SPAS Cruelty
Twin Mags
Lord of the SMG
AK47u Ferocity
AUG Ferocity
Assault Rifle Prodigy
Smells like...Victory
Blackbird In Position
Attack Dogs Unleashed
MPL Brutality

OPERATIONS CONTRACTS

TDM Victor
CTF Tornado
Headquarters Tornado
TDM Bloodbath
Domination Blood Bath
S&D Blood Bath
Free-For-All Warrior
Headquarters Barbarian
CTF Titan
Demolition Warlord

SPECIALIST CONTRACTS

Steel Meets Spine
Scorched
M72 LAW Killer
Ballistic Knife Killer
Tears Taste So Sweet
WA2000 Expert
A True Soldier
Elite Precision

EXTRA

Urban outfits- For create-a-class, choosing your 1st perk will determine how you look like. However, when you press lb or rb (xbox controller), you can choose to be a NVA, black ops or spetznaz ( there might be more). so for example, if you choose lightweight for perk 1, you can choose between a NVA( an asian guy), Urban Black ops ( the default choice of outfit when you pick lightweight) and Urban Spetznaz ( a guy in an army jacket, black pants and a black hat).

Prestige mode is level 50 but it takes the same time to get to it as it does level 65 in w@w.

Leaderboards - Black Ops’ Leaderboards are going to be featuring an automated system that will be able to detect any outrageous cheaters that are at the top and remove them. They also intend to keep a close eye on the boards to make sure the top contenders have a close represented score to what their skill level displays. So, if you are merely trying to cheat by adding a high number, but keeping it reasonable, they will know and you will most likely not be up there for long!

Contracts – THEY AREN'T REPLACING CHALLENGES. Contracts help you earn more CoD money throughout the game, but they do expire within a certain time-frame and in order to complete them in the future, it looks like you will have to buy them back.

Combat Training - This is a standalone progressive multiplayer that allows the gamer to compete against Artificial Intelligence. This mode is perfect for players who do not care to play against online users and for those who just want to get used to the game and the maps, first. Combat Training has it’s own rank system, separate from the multiplayer segment and can be played with friends.

i don't take any credit for this. all this info was from
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2010/09/ ... llstreaks/
http://bigpwner.com/2010/09/01/exposed- ... whats-not/
http://planetcallofduty.gamespy.com/Vie ... tail&id=82
 
Wonder what decoy special nade is? Maybe emits a red dot on the map. BUt more concerning for a shipped CoD....

FOUR MAPS?!?!?!?
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Wonder what decoy special nade is? Maybe emits a red dot on the map. BUt more concerning for a shipped CoD....

FOUR MAPS?!?!?!?
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decoy 'nade is basicly that. but worthless to me. im gunna guess that camping is gunna be the main aim of black ops, especially with that camera gadget if they had that on MW2, on some maps that could make you almost unkillable ::mad:
 
I've been reading some things about this game on the callofduty website forums.Seems like they're trying to sort some problems out from MW2.
No tactical insertions in the wager matches so people can't boost.And no join session in progress either.
Leaderboards will have a system in place to detect hacked accounts and treyarch will be keeping an eye on them as well.
There will be a report button where you can report anybody you think is cheating. Treyarch will then watch their game theatres and if they have cheated they'll be banned.
Party chat is allowed and for now forced game chat is only for S&D.
 
The decoy grenade will act like a gun firing bullets to either draw your foe towards you, or to force them to go another way for you to be waiting there and get them.

I will look forward to trying that. :D
 
anticonscience said:
A camper moaning about camping? :p
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I camp when I play FFA. I prefer not to camp on objective games but sometimes over powered killstreaks dictate it. I can understand why people do it. I prefer to call it protecting the objective. I don't hide in a random doorway, I hide where I know people will come to capture.

Although just recently I've stopped camping all together, all though sometimes I still get the calling.
 
biron_w; said:
I've been reading some things about this game on the callofduty website forums.Seems like they're trying to sort some problems out from MW2.
No tactical insertions in the wager matches so people can't boost.And no join session in progress either.
Leaderboards will have a system in place to detect hacked accounts and treyarch will be keeping an eye on them as well.
There will be a report button where you can report anybody you think is cheating. Treyarch will then watch their game theatres and if they have cheated they'll be banned.
Party chat is allowed and for now forced game chat is only for S&D.
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All sounds good to me.
 
dannyjo22 said:
I camp when I play FFA. I prefer not to camp on objective games but sometimes over powered killstreaks dictate it. I can understand why people do it. I prefer to call it protecting the objective. I don't hide in a random doorway, I hide where I know people will come to capture.

Although just recently I've stopped camping all together, all though sometimes I still get the calling.
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As previously stated elsewhere Danny, your camping is my comfort blanket ;)
 
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