you are right they wont but calling it 'the ground zero mosque' when its not is just feeding the backlash
Koran burning in reaction to 9/11
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you are right they wont but calling it 'the ground zero mosque' when its not is just feeding the backlash
Oh yeah he's all in favour of it, and totally disgusted by the plan to burn Qur'ans because it might result in bloodshed. He should know, he is the Middle East Peace Envoy (when he's not promoting his book, building a property empire, sitting on the board of banks and lecturing at privileged US universities).
Ahhh ok yes your right. But that still doesnt excuse the extremists though from what they did on 9/11.
I agree tbh...i dont think its worth the hassle...we muslims have it bad enough in the media without causing more hassle.
Ahh ok i didnt know that he was involved in all this...all ive heard of that idiot is his book signing which went kinda pear shaped in Ireland was it?? then his book being sold at half price
.Sorry mate i cant seem to log into my trust account so cant find your details...ill email a don and see if they can sort it out...wouldnt want you to post your email on here in case you get spammed
Sorry mate i cant seem to log into my trust account so cant find your details...ill email a don and see if they can sort it out...wouldnt want you to post your email on here in case you get spammed
I've emailed you via Trust. You should be able to lift my email from the one you receive (you can't reply directly, as Trust email is sent via OcUK's system).
What??...lol sorry im confused Tefal.
The 9/11 attacks gave the extremists an excuse to attack the west after the invasion of Kuwait many yrs ago...along with the americans occupying a few 'muslim' lands...why do you think they attacked the west exactly??.
Not sure if thats what your getting at though so feel free to correct me.
Cheers mate
....i just got it...ill email you after ive eaten lol...just got in from work.Well they do in order to justify what they do to their 'followers'
as someone will invariably question them as to why they should carry out such attacks....geez imagine that eh?? a terrorist who has a conscienceWell they do in order to justify what they do to their 'followers'
I hope you aren't speaking from experience there....
I jest, I jest
The proposed cultural centre includes a mosque, it is a small part of the scheme but it is there nonethless.
The building has been used for Muslim worship for over a year so the furore now is purely political and driven by media inanity.
The part of Manhattan where the WTC was is very small, wherever you site the cultural centre it wll be used as political fodder by the Christian Right regardless. There is a verifiable need in the area for muslims to worship so as the centre is half a mile from ground zero and is open to all, will promote peace and integration I see no logical reason to resite it or refuse one in lower manhattan. In fact, moving it further away will place it in conflict with the Jewish community on the lower eastside, so if you put aside for one moment media induced hysteria and politcal hyperhole, it's proposal is probably the better option.
The building has been used for Muslim worship for over a year so the furore now is purely political and driven by media inanity.
The part of Manhattan where the WTC was is very small, wherever you site the cultural centre it wll be used as political fodder by the Christian Right regardless. There is a verifiable need in the area for muslims to worship so as the centre is half a mile from ground zero and is open to all, will promote peace and integration I see no logical reason to resite it or refuse one in lower manhattan. In fact, moving it further away will place it in conflict with the Jewish community on the lower eastside, so if you put aside for one moment media induced hysteria and politcal hyperhole, it's proposal is probably the better option.
look who's lying
This is incorrect. According to Spawn, there is no mosque there, so stop lying
A place for thousands of Muslims to gather and pray is not a mosque anymore because it also has a swimming pool, and mosques dont have those.
(According to Spawn).
That would normally be applicable to non religious places, but how exactly can you have an Islamic Community Centre built for Muslims with large prayer rooms, and not have a Mosque?
Now I find this incredibly funny:
So is he really trying to convince everyone that he genuinely had no idea that building an 'Islamic Community Centre including a Mosque' so close to Ground Zero wouldnt cause so much pain? How can anyone buy that excuse, OF COURSE HE KNEW that this project would have caused so much pain.
It doesnt matter now though. We will still have International burn a Koran day and Everybody Draw Mohammed day forever now, finally some fun days for blasphemous atheists to enjoy
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look who's lying
This is incorrect. According to Spawn, there is no mosque there, so stop lying
A place for thousands of Muslims to gather and pray is not a mosque anymore because it also has a swimming pool, and mosques dont have those.
(According to Spawn).
To be fair to Spawn, and others, the original proposal by the Cordoba Initiative did not include a mosque, simply a contemplation and prayer-room.
The Unit51 project is more ambitious and the mosque was included when the previous provision for Muslim worship in Lower Mannhattan was closed after failing to secure suitable premises.
Either way the provision is needed and there are other constraints to consider, like I mentioned previous.
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My two cents on the matter: I'd imagine the vast majority of Muslims can see these people for what they are, the lunatic fringe hell bent on garnering attention for their own warped world view, much like their own extremist element. And those who do carry out an act of terror as a result of Billy-Bob and Bubba-Ray's book burning probably would have probably done so anyway, to avenge some other perceived slight, real, imagined or otherwise.
TLDR: My world (and your's too) is probably going to be unaffected.
TLDR: My world (and your's too) is probably going to be unaffected.
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