Its the same with my Gigabyte the volts do not change in Gpu-z.. It must be something with Gpu-z i doubt its anything to worry about..
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Its the same with my Gigabyte the volts do not change in Gpu-z.. It must be something with Gpu-z i doubt its anything to worry about..
Thanks for that. So looks like something up with GPUz.
So my question is.... how do you know that it's:
a) applied the voltage adjustment you've set?
b) what the voltage currently is after adjustment?
I see that Afterburner has a toggle in settings for monitoring Voltage. But if I set this and restart Afterburner, nothing seems to appear in the monitoring panel!
I'll get the hang of this soon!
Question for your good self. What are your stock 2D/3D voltages?
Mine appear to be (well this is what GPUz says) 0.875 (2D) and 1.025 (3D)
I thought all you needed to do after pressing the "apply" button, was to click "apply overclocking at system start up"! and that you did not need to actually have afterburner running all the time? Surely there is just a windows process set up by Afterburner to handle this?
Use AB to see if the applied voltage is being used. I.e, set voltage as one of the things to monitor, and either view it on screen during a game, or (as I do) look at AB's hardware monitor after a game.
This would be great. BUT... you can tell it to monitor GPU voltage, but nothing appears on the monitor screen.
Only conclusion that I can make, is that the voltage regulators on the 460 HAWK do not support any form of software voltage read out. Something I had sort of started to lean towards after reading a post on the Afterburner forum at Guru3D (see my posts in the 460 HAWK thread on OCuk's forum for more details).
You would think so. Unless there is some trick to making it appear in the monitor readout, other than ticking the setting in the "settings" and re-starting Afterburner.
Question... for you... is the voltage readout an absolute value? or an offset (IE. shows as +1 to +100)?
Out of interest... what clocks are you running your card at?
PS. Damn. One error after 30 mins OCCT with +50mV 853/1706/2003x2. Suppose I need to up the volts a bit. Maybe make it +60mV
To be honest, if I have to apply this much voltage to get it to 853MHz... then I cant see t hitting a stable 1GHz for anyone! Unless they have a much better chip than me!
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Interesting.... Yours is showing an absolute value. My guess is that the voltage regulators must be different between the Cyclone and the Hawk! As mine shows an offset! And there is a comment in the Afterburner manual:
"Depending on graphics card model the voltage can be
represented either explicitly or as an offset added to base voltage. Singed values represented the offset whilst unsigned values represent absolute voltage"
And the only reason that I can think of for the difference, is that for some cards, the software can't read the voltage and hence can't display it as an absolute value! Could be another explanation of course.
Though seems a bit daft to me, with the Hawk supposed to be the top knob MSI 460 card (so to speak).
If I make my offset +60mV to 1.025V, then that gives 1.085V to get to the same OC as you. So I'm thinking that there isn't "that" much difference between the Cyclone and the Hawk version of this card. Obviously as my stock voltage is higher than the Cyclone, it does mean I could ultimately put more voltage through the GPU.
IE. 1.025 + 100mV = 1.125... slightly higher than the 1.087 that I've seen quoted a few times as the max voltage.
I'll try +60mV and test again.
So being totally objective. I can't really see the point in paying the premium for the Hawk version of this card over the Cyclone (some £35+ difference) ... unless you want to really push the OC, or like me, you just fancy one.
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wow can you tell me how you got your core clock to 900mhz? thats an amazing overclock!
and here's mine
60mV appears to have made it 100% stable in OCCT (30 min run). And added around 1,200 point in Vantage. So all told reasonably happy. Though it hit 69C / 78% fan when running OCCT, could probably get that down with obviously removing side panel, or replacing my stock Lin Li fans at the front with something with a bit more grunt. Though max temp in Vantage was only 57C, which just goes to show how OCCT stresses your GPU!
That gives me another 40mV on the core to play with and the other 2 voltages to fiddle with, should I get bored. Think I shall stick with what I have for the moment.
60mV appears to have made it 100% stable in OCCT (30 min run). And added around 1,200 point in Vantage. So all told reasonably happy. Though it hit 69C / 78% fan when running OCCT, could probably get that down with obviously removing side panel, or replacing my stock Lin Li fans at the front with something with a bit more grunt. Though max temp in Vantage was only 57C, which just goes to show how OCCT stresses your GPU!
That gives me another 40mV on the core to play with and the other 2 voltages to fiddle with, should I get bored. Think I shall stick with what I have for the moment.
Just moved the core clock slider a few more pixels to the right
My card clocks quite well, Asus GTX460 DirectCU Top edition.
Fully stable and no artefacts in Kombustor after 15 minutes.
Me to. But at the moment I don't have the balls to try it! I'll leave that to someone more adventurous than me.
Though if mine is an average example. I don't honestly see them going above 950MHz with only 100mV uplift, I think you would need more volts. The README for Afterburner does say that +200 is available for the MSI 460 Hawk but it obviously isn't. Though I did see this refuted by one of the techie mods on the Guru3D forums.
Also I don't think saying it's Furmark / Kombuster stable, as some folks do, is adequate. Mine was fine in Kombuster with stock volts but run OCCT and it was throwing up quite a few errors. It needed another 60mV to be totally error free. That's what amuses me slightly about some of the O/L reviews I see, I can't remember a single one that states "how" they stress test. Queue someone to link an article that does!
Also with the Hawk you potentially have two other voltages you can play with. So the memory for a start can probably go a fair bit higher.
I await someone with more balls than me to really try.
Is it OCCT stable though? As Kombustor doesn't stress it anywhere near as much.
Re OCCT. It can stress test CPU, GPU, memory and even your PSU.
When stressing the GPU you can set it to check for errors and it will check each and every frame against a reference one and log any differences (IE. errors). It will push your GPU much harder than programs like Furmark / Kombuster. If it passes this with zero errors, then I doubt you will have any problems with anything else you run.