Employees Rights - Death of a Colleague

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Hey all,

I'm asking this on behalf of my girlfriends old work mates. She worked in a store for about 2 years until last september before switching branches to dublin so she knows them quite well and is still in contact with them all. One of the guys she worked with for two years in the last store and who was still working at the store died yesterday, he was found by two of the other employees at around 10pm last night in his apartment. They had to call his parents and tell them as they live a couple of hours away.

One of the two that found him was the store manager and she was understandably upset, it's a small store of maybe a dozen people so they were all close and she'd worked with him herself for three years. This morning she had to open the shop as there was no one else who could, they're understaffed in terms of managers down there still I think. She had to work about 4-5 hours this morning before getting replaced by a manager from another store.

Now while I think that it's pretty bad form of the store to make her open it the morning after finding her colleague dead that's not the worst. They're not saying that no one there will be given time off to go to the funeral which will be held in his home town about two hours drive away. Considering the fact that he was their employee personally I don't think it's too much to ask for the store to close for atleast half a day in order to give the people that knew him time to grieve.

This is in Ireland so I know the laws will be a bit different maybe but generally in things like this they're pretty much a copy of your laws. Does anyone know if there's a legal right the employees have in this situation? I know there is when it's a family member but I can't find anything when it's a colleague.

Of course the decent thing for the company to do would be give them the time off, get people from other stores to cover if they really want to keep the place open. I'm not sure if their HR department sees it that way though.
 
Absurd. Of course the company doesn't have to close the store (they're running a business, etc, etc...) but common sense (and decency) should allow them to make an exception. I would suggest to them that such a story would probably be very, very, appealing to a local newspaper or two...
 
Seems awfully uncompassionate to give leave in this situation especially if others were good friends, I'd thought at least giving leave for the funeral attendence would be enough.

Short sighted by HR etc in my opinion also a good workforce is a happy workforce treat your employees like this and well, goodwill is lost so it is probably also in their interests to be reasonable.

Frankly I suggest (and I am no expert but this is what I would do if it was a friend etc), is taking 'annual leave' to attend the funeral and telling them that they can go sort out the staff if they want to keep the store open. Or possibly taking a sickie but I would take the annual leave since that is your entitlement anyway, doubt they could do anything about it. If they tried I could just see the story, Company X disciplines / sacks workers over attending friends funeral, good PR I think not.
 
Just dont go in tell them point blank you will be away for a few hrs for a funeral if they fire you then f em and maybe take to court saying u were fired for going to a funeral for a few hrs. I doubt any court would side with some heartless boss who wouldnt let them go.
 
There's no right to attend, however I would hope that any good employer would at least explore the options with regards to alternative/volunteer staffing for the day or something like that.
 
There's no right to attend, however I would hope that any good employer would at least explore the options with regards to alternative/volunteer staffing for the day or something like that.

got it in one, its pretty harsh of them, maybe worth a chat to the press about this one especially if its retail as they hate bad press even more!
 
Classic now/not typo I guess.

oops!

I don't really want to name the company, it's nothing to do with me.

Basically then they have no obligation to give them leave to attend but morally they should. Atleast we know that now. Thanks guys.
 
oops!

I don't really want to name the company, it's nothing to do with me.

Basically then they have no obligation to give them leave to attend but morally they should. Atleast we know that now. Thanks guys.

Sounds like you'll be telling them just to roll over and take it?

If the company doesn't want to play fair (and for ****s sake, what's fairer than giving someone time off to attend a friend and workmate's funeral), then they need to be exposed for the waste of time that they are. It'll hurt them no end.
 
I'm not sure who you would need to speak to, but you have a very strong argument on your side.
Firstly take the moral high ground... Express your disappointment and your confusion at their actions. They will question themselves while you are talking, so swiftly move on to how your colleagues are in agreement with you.
Ask them what they would honestly do in your situation given that XY had passed away.
It will either be this point where you can threaten a tip off, provided there is a heated response, or you can simply tip off the media anon if said response is blazé.
 
An employee at my work was murdered a few weeks ago. They didn't close the place but let everyone that wanted to take the time off for the funeral (afaik most of the senior staff in my department went) and we were all allowed to take out some time if we found it hard. I must say that even though I didn't know her that well it was handled well and I took a bit of time out because it was very eerie working with everyone so quiet and obviously upset.

I think that with work colleagues it is good to let any of them that want go to the funeral but ask for volunteers to keep the shop open etc.
 
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