Put a deposit down, if it passes MOT fine it's mine

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Are you going to be modifying it?
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Not sure, a 2.5v6 twin turbo is tempting ( there are some conversions like that with 300+ ponies on the net), but I doubt it, just fix it up ( new clutch, redo my leather front seat(s), and the easiest and cheapest fix: the rust on the rear left arch), drive it for a year, then sell and move on to the next car...
 
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To give you an idea how much 2nd hand 150+ ponie ( so only vr4, v6 and 2.4gdi) galants cost here:

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Most of them are automatics too, and most often the habit is that auto's are cheaper here than manual cars.
 
I'm going to ignore everything that is wrong with the rest of what you said and focus on this...

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Towbar is only a plus imo, if I get hit from behind it's protecting my bumper.
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Someone rear ending you will NOT save your car if you have a towbar, it's likely to in fact cost MORE to repair your car because the towbar is attached to structural items, smacking it will result in these items being bent out of shame and pushing the repair bill up a lot more than just for a replacement rear bumper.

Also, on the note of price of cars, so what if this is the first cheap one of these in this condition, that doesn't mean you have to buy it. I understand that used car prices are retarded over there, which more emphasise my next point. As a young new driver you just need something to get you through your schooling and into a decently paid job, then you can buy something worthwhile.

In the UK we are lucky in that we can buy decent enough cars for a lot cheaper than you can all this means is you should just stick with what you have for longer, not try and chop and change like so many do over here.

EDIT: In response to your image, what is the reason for it being 3k LESS than all of the others? Makes it seem like a right dog and any sensible person would avoid. You don't NEED a 'powerful' large car, you just want one. Grow up, get a clue, then come back with your car threads.
 
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Someone rear ending you will NOT save your car if you have a towbar, it's likely to in fact cost MORE to repair your car because the towbar is attached to structural items, smacking it will result in these items being bent out of shame and pushing the repair bill up a lot more than just for a replacement rear bumper.
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Can just drive it to Poland and have it fixed for 50 Euro.
 
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Someone rear ending you will NOT save your car if you have a towbar, it's likely to in fact cost MORE to repair your car because the towbar is attached to structural items, smacking it will result in these items being bent out of shame and pushing the repair bill up a lot more than just for a replacement rear bumper.
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Experience proved otherwise, the rolla was rear ended 3 times and nothing happened but the culprit smashing his bumper/regplate/etc. I'm talking about low speed bumps.
Regardless, I don't really give a hoot if it has or doesn't have one but I was actually disappointed my v40 didn't have one.

Also, on the note of price of cars, so what if this is the first cheap one of these in this condition, that doesn't mean you have to buy it. I understand that used car prices are retarded over there, which more emphasise my next point. As a young new driver you just need something to get you through your schooling and into a decently paid job, then you can buy something worthwhile.
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I've been hunting four different advert sites every single day for the past 4 months now. I want something new, I love Galants and this one drove perfectly fine and is an improvement over my Volvo.
In the UK we are lucky in that we can buy decent enough cars for a lot cheaper than you can all this means is you should just stick with what you have for longer, not try and chop and change like so many do over here.
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I can stick with the Volvo for longer fine, mechanically there is nothing wrong, but I just became bored of it, I want something nippier, a nicer soundtrack, and more toys and comfort.

Despite going to uni I work 30 hours per week which means I have 1000€ to spend every month after bills and uni payment, I like to spend it on nice things. I have no debts whatsoever and I want a new car over new pc bits, a new tv, new sound, etc... I am wasting too much money on beer, going out, which means I'm crap at saving money.
Can just drive it to Poland and have it fixed for 50 Euro.
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You don't understand my situation, my whole family lives there, I can go there on a holiday and stay over for free as long as I like, one of my nephews imports damaged cars from western Europe, fixes em up, and sells them there, it's not a matter of a random cheap garage, I actually have contacts there. I'm going there for a holiday at least one per year anyhow, and when I'm there I happen to make use of the low labor costs.
EDIT: In response to your image, what is the reason for it being 3k LESS than all of the others? Makes it seem like a right dog and any sensible person would avoid. You don't NEED a 'powerful' large car, you just want one. Grow up, get a clue, then come back with your car threads.
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The 3 issues in the OP... The car was actually on before for 3k, I noticed the person just wants to get rid of it asap as he lowered the price today.

Of course not, but I want to, it's my hard earned money, why can't I buy myself something nice ? I want to spend my cash on nice things for a change rather than excessively expensive booze ( a pint is 5€ here in a pub), junkfood, car detailing, and my pc.


I am not selling my Volvo just yet, if the Galant shows issues I can always sell it on to someone else.

As in the OP if it passes MOT on Monday or tuesday I'm buying it regardless, I took a 20 minute test drive and all seemed fine and nothing felt out of the ordinary, the Vans I drive for work are more ragged than this car is.
 
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Off topic question:

What's to stop an EU citizen from buying a car from the UK and driving it across to the continent and registering it and all the rest of it? Does it cost a lot to do that? Or is it even possible?
 
Captain_Slick said:
Off topic question:

What's to stop an EU citizen from buying a car from the UK and driving it across to the continent and registering it and all the rest of it? Does it cost a lot to do that? Or is it even possible?
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Costs a lot to import cars to here from abroad, lots and lots of tax to register it.

Aside from that, wrong hand drive, shifting gear with my left hand would feel odd, of course I'd get used to it but still, suspect that's the main reason.
 
I thought there were no import taxes when moving goods within the EU any more?

EDIT: I thought so. There isn't. http://www.belastingdienst.nl/variabel/buitenland/en/bpm/bpm-13.html#P256_22664

Turnover tax (VAT) in the Netherlands only applies to NEW vehicles, too. So you only have to pay bpm which you would pay anyway... and considering that it's costing £4000 for a car that would normally sell for £1000 in the UK, I think that's what I'd do if I lived on the continent. Having the steering wheel on the wrong side isn't much trouble.
 
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snowdog said:
Towbar is only a plus imo, if I get hit from behind it's protecting my bumper.
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How on earth can you think this? It is a blatant indication that it has been used for towing, I.E a large amount of components have been strained much more than a car of comparable mileage that hasn't been used for lagging stuff around.

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So what that it isn't standard the gauges and the lcd, it's a nice addon imo.
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No, it's not. It's a indication that it's been owned by a **** who thinks that fitting a Volt meter and "economy" gauge to a Mitsubishi Galant is a good idea. This is typically the type of person you do not want to buy a car from.

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Up to 4k there is nothing else that ticks all my boxes except a scooby turbo the 210bhp one, various saabs, various volvo's, and various pre 1995 cars.
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Sounds like just about anyone of those cars would have better suited you. Especially if you could actually buy a half decent one with your budget.

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Want something faster, more comfy, and nicer looking.
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So why did you buy a Mitsubishi Galant? :confused:

snowdog said:
I am absolutely chuffed to bits I found this for just a grand,
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Awesome, I've been chuffed to bits with some of the sheds that I bought over the years, but I'm always able to step a step back and appreciate why some people would think that it was a rubbish buy. This is something that you don't seem to be able to do?

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the only others I viewed that were worth buying were all 4000+ €.
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Did you not then stop and think "Gee, if all the nice ones are out of my budget, maybe I cannot afford this model of car"? :confused:

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Not only that but a lot were automatics, and auto cars in the NL are cheaper than manual cars and I don't want an auto.
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Slightly off topic, but why not? I remember you banging on about what type of driving you do and from memory an auto suited you down to the ground. It's not like you'll be bombing down properly tight and twisty country lanes in a Galant :D.

snowdog said:
I don't see why getting a car that is all immaculate with an inflated price is better than buying a cheap one and fixing it up. Can save some serious money this way.
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Let's be clear here, you will very, very rarely save money over buying a decent example in the first place.

I'm sorry to sound like a dick, but this really does seem like a sidewards step from your Volvo at the very best.
 
Joshy said:
How on earth can you think this? It is a blatant indication that it has been used for towing, I.E a large amount of components have been strained much more than a car of comparable mileage that hasn't been used for lagging stuff around.
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I will see, I'm not selling the Volvo atm, plan on keeping both cars for at least 2-3 months.

No, it's not. It's a indication that it's been owned by a **** who thinks that fitting a Volt meter and "economy" gauge to a Mitsubishi Galant is a good idea. This is typically the type of person you do not want to buy a car from.
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I'm taking a gamble, it may turn out right, it may turn out wrong, either way it won't give me trouble because of the price, if it's a bad buy then lesson learned better luck next time. Either I have a lovely car for a year or I lose a couple of hundred from selling it on in a couple of months.


So why did you buy a Mitsubishi Galant? :confused
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8.2 sec to 100, 225km top speed 160 ponies 6 cyl
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9.7 sec to 100, 205km top speed 140 ponies 4 cyl

It is the faster car...

It is FAR more comfy, a little bit better specced ( I win things like elec seats, a nice big lcd for stuff, etc) and I absolutely love the way it looks I love most 90's jap car exteriors. It was either this, or a 4th Gen Prelude, or probably a scooby. But those lack a lot of comfort and toys this car offers.


Awesome, I've been chuffed to bits with some of the sheds that I bought over the years, but I'm always able to step a step back and appreciate why some people would think that it was a rubbish buy. This is something that you don't seem to be able to do?
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As long as I'm happy with it that's all that matters ? I wouldn't drive a V40 if I cared how people think about it. From one side you get car enthusiasts saying it's rubbish/boring, another side I have dumb youngsters thinking grandpa car, another side I have dumb elderly ''we don't care about cars/badge snobs'' people saying ''Wow a Volvo'', all 3 images annoy me so meh whatever.


Did you not then stop and think "Gee, if all the nice ones are out of my budget, maybe I cannot afford this model of car"? :confused:
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No, insurers value it at 2800€, which I can afford, people are just a little bit enthusiastic with their pricing. I've been waiting for a good buy for ages.


Slightly off topic, but why not? I remember you banging on about what type of driving you do and from memory an auto suited you down to the ground. It's not like you'll be bombing down properly tight and twisty country lanes in a Galant :D.
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An auto does not suit my driving style, plus I wouldn't feel in control completely which I despise about any machine. I love a traffic light GP or 2 and love doing that in a manual. Driven an auto on some occasions for work and it's just boring whereas I like changing gear.
Let's be clear here, you will very, very rarely save money over buying a decent example in the first place.

I'm sorry to sound like a dick, but this really does seem like a sidewards step from your Volvo at the very best.
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From my limited experience it does, all our cars but 2 ( incidentally my current car and my dads C5 which was very steeply priced) we bought in the past 15 years had some kind of issue ( like a very dented door, or small rust spots) which made them cheaper, and all provided for 4+ years of happy motoring.

But, I do not assume at all this will be 100% fine just yet, I'm taking a gamble and keeping my Volvo and a couple of grand as a backup for now. Either I'm lucky and have a bargain, or not. Rather take the risk than wait and wait and wait...


I thought there were no import taxes when moving goods within the EU any more?

EDIT: I thought so. There isn't. http://www.belastingdienst.nl/variab...tml#P256_22664

Turnover tax (VAT) in the Netherlands only applies to NEW vehicles, too. So you only have to pay bpm which you would pay anyway... and considering that it's costing £4000 for a car that would normally sell for £1000 in the UK, I think that's what I'd do if I lived on the continent. Having the steering wheel on the wrong side isn't much trouble.
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Transport costs, costs to register a new dutch license plate ( BPM).

When do you have to pay bpm?
You have to pay bpm in the following cases:

•When you enter a passenger car, motorcycle or delivery van in the Dutch vehicle registration system. You pay bpm on a delivery van if it was put into use on or after 1 July 2005 and you are not an entrepreneur and do not satisfy the requirements of the entrepreneurs scheme. When you buy a new car, it is usually the dealer, salesman or importer who sees to this registration.

http://www.belastingdienst.nl/variabel/buitenland/en/bpm/bpm-10.html#P223_18212

I do not have to pay BPM to buy a second hand Dutch car.
 
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Captain_Slick said:
What. How. Why.

How does anyone buy cars new in The Netherlands? Surely car manufacturers add that cost onto the OTR price?
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Because the government uses motorists and money pigs and people tolerate it.

Yeah it gets added on top of the car price.

My Volvo has had f15671,- (guilders) BPM or 7111 euros the first owner coughed up.

EDIT: I think I made a mistake, the BPM on my reg papers doesn't mean that is just tax I think.
EDIT2: It's the raw tax based on the catalog price, but there are various things that make it cheaper, I'm not exactly sure how it works myself as I've never really been interested in new cars.

EDIT3: The bpm to pay would indeed be very low and such an old car 92% + 0,083% for every month after 9 years and 6 month.
So importing an old car would indeed be worthwhile, but a new car has very small reductions, it would not make sense to import a car less than 5 years old.
I have a headache:
http://www.belastingdienst.nl/variabel/buitenland/en/bpm/bpm-35.html#P982_72376
 
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I eagerly await the thread titled "Now I know why it cost 1/4 of the price of the alternatives"

Because if it looks too good to be true it probably is.
 
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