Who should be leader of the Labour party?

scorza said:
They can and there's plenty of evidence for that from other governments. Trade union membership is key, power in society is grossly disproportionately wielded by those at the top. Under a proper trade union framework, like exists in the Nordics and Germany, unions will act as a counter weight to that power.
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but you oppose all the other public sector changes in those country, you know, like the ones the coalition are trying to bring in...

Then there are other things that have worked in promoting equality in other countries, like protecting your key industries (every country does this except us) and subsidising food production to ensure a viable rural economy.
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And school selection, private provision of state funded services, concentrating on access rather than provision and so on...

Yes inequality got worse under Labour, but at least they tried to do something and didn't pretend inequality wasn't an issue. At least they did manage to slow down the rate of inequality growth.
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Depends on what metric you use. They slowed down income poverty by lifting a significant number of people from just below the arbitary level to just above it. Social mobility, on the other hand, suffered an increasing growth rate.
 
Not Diane Abbott thats for sure. Like every other black person on tv/in politics she brings race into everything. Just like black comedians only ever seem to make jokes about them being black - if you want people to not look at your skin colour then stop mentioning it! :rolleyes:

Sorry mini rant there
 
thecremeegg said:
Not Diane Abbott thats for sure. Like every other black person on tv/in politics she brings race into everything. Just like black comedians only ever seem to make jokes about them being black - if you want people to not look at your skin colour then stop mentioning it! :rolleyes:

Sorry mini rant there
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+1

Diane Abbott makes my skin crawl, she is a racist fraudsters and if she ever gets the labour leader seat it will be a one horse race each election.
 
KNiVES said:
Tony Blair would be much better than any of the candidates. I still think he was one of the best post-war prime ministers Britain has had.
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He really wasn't, unless you count sleaze, illegal wars and creating a debt timebomb as being of note.
 
Dolph said:
He really wasn't, unless you count sleaze, illegal wars and creating a debt timebomb as being of note.
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Cross-party support was behind 2 of those things.

The mighty Thatcher's (regarded as the best post-war PM) list of shortfalls are even worse than Blair's.
 
Who should be the leader of the Labour Party?

Who cares! Whole lot are as smarmy and git-ish as each other, and should all be taken out into the woods at dawn and shot. But that's only my opinion...
 
RDM said:
It's a moot point. As far as International Politics go, as long as you are on the side of the big boys you can't do anything "illegal".
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You can, as long as you redefine it first and have a UN resolution to back you up, even if it is unrelated to the act itself.:p
 
I thought I'd give this a bump, as we find out in a matter of hours.

Well, I'm keeping to the same line that I have done since I heard that Ed was running for the leadership. I want David to win, but I think Ed is just going to snatch it...
 
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