cats communicating

yer_averagejoe · 14 Sep 2010 at 15:20

Wait, wait, wait..

GJ02 said:
moses the Chihuahua

Awesome.

GJ02 · 14 Sep 2010 at 15:59

The cats and Moses all go outside
It's just Polly she is evil
I'll post a pic of her after

kylew · 14 Sep 2010 at 16:20

Hatter The Mad said:
Cats aren't humans. Cats do not have a conciousness like us, and probably don't have an awareness of themselves either.

lol *points*

"andy" · 14 Sep 2010 at 16:35

Hatter The Mad said:
Cats aren't humans. Cats do not have a conciousness like us, and probably don't have an awareness of themselves either.

so so wrong

Rameses · 14 Sep 2010 at 16:45

Same thing happened when our cat TC who was there first began getting sick (kidney failure it turned out to be). The other cat Tigers began attacking her for no reason!

It must be the sense of weakness or something, very strange.

I miss TC

The Dread Pirate · 14 Sep 2010 at 16:50

They're plotting your imminent demise! :eek:

Hatter The Mad · 14 Sep 2010 at 16:52

"andy" said:
so so wrong

Prove it?

And don't use some dumb anecdote about how you're sure your cat has a human-like concious and emotions, because we're not 12 years old.

Cats and other animals do have feelings, but they are very different to ours. We (pet owners) personify our pets and project our own conciousness onto them, because it kind of fits (anything does in our head).

kylew · 14 Sep 2010 at 16:55

Hatter The Mad said:
Prove it?

And don't use some dumb anecdote about how you're sure your cat has a human-like concious and emotions, because we're not 12 years old.

You have a stick up your arse.

Curio · 14 Sep 2010 at 16:55

Depends on the cat I guess. My cats definitely know if something is wrong with one another - and even more so if something is wrong with us! Our older cat, Bailey, is incredibly "attuned" to our emotions. Some cats just don't get on though.....that's life I guess.

antijoke · 14 Sep 2010 at 16:58

kylew said:
You have a cat up your arse.

Fixed.

RedDanDoc · 14 Sep 2010 at 17:05

Cats are Just Like little Robots that are designed to Catch Mice.

Ive got two and I'm sick of them on Account of their obnoxious behavior and their inability to bury their **** properly.

Curio · 14 Sep 2010 at 17:06

Hatter The Mad said:
Cats aren't humans. Cats do not have a conciousness like us, and probably don't have an awareness of themselves either.

Cat's aren't human? You, sir, are a genius! Of course they don't "feel" in the same way we do, but they most definitely have a level of awareness that is above that of many creatures. Our cats are very connected to each other and us, and it has nothing to do with projecting our own emotional needs onto them, or anything else like that. They may be different, but that doesn't mean there's nothing going on in their heads.

RedDanDoc · 14 Sep 2010 at 17:07

Curio said:
Cat's aren't human? You, sir, are a genius! Of course they don't "feel" in the same way we do, but they most definitely have a level of awareness that is above that of many creatures. Our cats are very connected to each other and us, and it has nothing to do with projecting our own emotional needs onto them, or anything else like that. They may be different, but that doesn't mean there's nothing going on in their heads.

Cats cannot Empathise.

Curio · 14 Sep 2010 at 17:08

RedDanDoc said:
Cats are Just Like little Robots that are designed to Catch Mice.

Ive got two and I'm sick of them on Account of their obnoxious behavior and their inability to bury their **** properly.

Certain threads are guaranteed to bring out the morons. Cat threads are one of them.

Hatter The Mad · 14 Sep 2010 at 17:11

Curio said:
but they most definitely have a level of awareness that is above that of many creatures

Got any links to studies that show this?

. Our cats are very connected to each other and us, and it has nothing to do with projecting our own emotional needs onto them, or anything else like that.

Well, not that you realise.

They may be different, but that doesn't mean there's nothing going on in their heads.

Indeed, but compared to humans, there is very little. Cats, live almost all animals, are governed by the four Fs - Flight, Fight, Feed, ****: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Fs_(evolution) (humans, it seems, have a concious experience above this).

Curio · 14 Sep 2010 at 17:13

RedDanDoc said:
Cats cannot Empathise.

Who said they could? That doesn't mean they're devoid of any feelings at all...

RedDanDoc · 14 Sep 2010 at 17:19

Curio said:
Who said they could? That doesn't mean they're devoid of any feelings at all...

Alright Einstein enlighten me as to what feelings they posses ?

And less of the Moron, Pillock !

FoxEye · 14 Sep 2010 at 17:24

Hatter The Mad said:
Got any links to studies that show this?

Clearly their level of intelligence is lower than ours.

But how would you accurately quantify it? How do you test for cat emotions?

How do you test for cat understanding of other cats?

How do you become 100% certain that an action is purely instinctual and not reasoned/calculated by the cat?

Curio · 14 Sep 2010 at 17:35

Hatter The Mad said:
Got any links to studies that show this?

I've got Google. I can't really be bothered though...

Well, not that you realise.

Yes, that's right - I'm THAT naive :rolleyes:

Indeed, but compared to humans, there is very little. Cats, live almost all animals, are governed by the four Fs - Flight, Fight, Feed, ****: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Fs_(evolution) (humans, it seems, have a concious experience above this).

Nobody is arguing that cats are as advanced as humans - but they're clearly more advanced than, say, a snail. They also often show evidence of an uncanny ability to gauge human emotion. Of course that is hard to quantify, so it's usually put down to silly people simply personifying or anthropomorphizing by other people who don't actually own cats, or view cats as something that just drifts in and out of the door a couple of times a day.

kylew · 14 Sep 2010 at 17:37

anticonscience said:
Fixed.