Ever thought of comiting suicde?

Deadbeat said:
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I think that's Thanatos. Greek god, possibly of death, in psychological terms the classification for natural self-destructive tendencies, a proclivity to engage in harmful, risky past-times and the temptation to take the more dangerous course. It's why you can't help but poke a wobbly tooth with your tongue, why you get that strange urge to throw yourself off high places, why people have (as previously mentioned) fantasies about suicide, and some psychologists believe it's a big contributor to the allure of drugs, both legal and illegal. There's a corresponding term, Eros I think, that could just be related without being a counterpart.

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Edit: Seems I've got Wikipedia on my side, a trusty comrade in the gloomy realms of approximate debate. They also named a euthanasia machine after the concept, and Thanatos wasn't a god, he was a Daemon (note apocalyptic "daemon" spelling, so much more infernal than the lesser "demon")
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Maybe the author was trying to indicate the original meaning, the one it had before Christianity messed with it. There was nothing infernal about demons originally - they were guiding spirits, demigods, that sort of thing.

Ah, here we go:

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=demon
 
converse_uprise said:
Wow. Kilroy saved your life.

Good job it wasn't Jeremy Kyle dmpoole otherwise you'd of got a bloody taxi to the traintrack!
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The following week I went into my group session and basically tore into everybody and told them to grow up because the reasons they were there was for nothing :
A woman who's daughter would do bugger all in the house
A top local runner who couldn't bear coming second
A gorgeous healthy Scottish woman who thought she was going to drop dead
A bloke who hated people talking behind his back in teh bank he worked at
and so on ..............

As I walked out and told them all to FO the Psychaiatrist ran after me and asked what had changed my mind, I told him and he said 'Blimey, most people would have gone through it after watching Kilroy' :)

What took a long time was convincing my wife I had changed because I had no idea I put her through so much.
 
Tefal said:
On the "it's selfish argument".

Is it not selfish to expect someone to live in pain so severe they wished they were dead to save yourself some emotional distress?
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Less than a week ago I was at the funeral of a friend, he had taken his own life. He was 31, appeared to those who first met him as outgoing, fun and a joker. I had known he had suffered from depression for years. He had sought counselling, had been on medication and been admitted to a psychiatric hospital more than once. As it transpired these feelings stemmed back further than any of us knew.

He had spent the last years of his life effectively living for everyone else. He felt such dispair that there was nothing left to live for save the feelings of those he would leave behind. So for years he struggled on until it just became to much to bear that even that wasn't enough. I've run out of words to express how I feel about his passing, they just don't seem adequate. But I don't think what he did was selfish, he tried very hard for a long time.
 
Wouldn't have met the nice people I have in my life now if I'd've gone through with it :)

A good response is possibly to write about what you feel, or write around it or find some other form of safe expression (painting, drawing etc).
 
Dark_Angel said:
"Life is a gift. As sweet as a ripped peach, as precious as a guilded jewel.
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What if it isn't?

What if nothing felt "good" you don't feel sad you just never feel happy.

would you have a girlfriend if she didn't make you happy, you gained no pleasure or joy from her presence?

She can still make you feel frustrated, guilty, any or upset not any more than in a normal relationship but there's no good to balance the bad, would you still see her?

How about friends would you go out drinking/socialising if it wasn't fun?

Would you carry on working in your job that you gain no pleasure from to earn money to buy things you don't want and that don't make you happy?

Once your brain stops rewarding you for your actions it will rob you of your motivation and any real reason for going on.


Really is there anything you would do if you genuinely didn't get any enjoyment from any of it?
 
No, given that I have strong feelings on this, I hate it. My sister took her life when I was 3-4 years old.

Also last month I watched someone almost take his life by jumping off a third story balcony in Ibiza, was 6am and we had just come back from clubbing, you could tell he was in a mess, he was hanging off, no one could see only us, we didnt want to shout as we didnt no if it would make him jump. Flagged the spanish police down who were driving past and pointed to him, what did they do? they drove on and ignored it.

Luckily he started screaming at the top of his lungs and people started noticing and eventually someone broke in to his room and got him off the ledge.

Really not nice to watch and I dont agree with it
 
Ok, serious input time. I contemplated it twice actually - first time when my dad died and everyone at school was being complete ****holes about it, taking the **** at every available opportunity (I now obviously realise how harsh kids can be) and a second time when another close relative died.

The second time, I was being quite logical and didn't think that it would be selfish as I could leave all of my savings and assets to my sister, which would pay off her mortgage and leave her pretty comfortable. I came around after a while, it was just one of those out-there thoughts that you get while grieving.
 
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This thread makes me want to commit suicide.

*Goes to Boots and buys some black eye-liner, black nail polish and black hair dye*

Okay now I'm ready........

/Emo..ohwait /facepalm




/Johnathan
 
cb_linus said:
Wouldn't have met the nice people I have in my life now if I'd've gone through with it :)

A good response is possibly to write about what you feel, or write around it or find some other form of safe expression (painting, drawing etc).
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The other option is to go head on at the "problem(s)" that are causing the ideas in the first place. For me that was bullying. I got suspended a few times after but I got that part of my life out of my system...
 
DJMK4 said:
No, given that I have strong feelings on this, I hate it. My sister took her life when I was 3-4 years old.

Also last month I watched someone almost take his life by jumping off a third story balcony in Ibiza, was 6am and we had just come back from clubbing, you could tell he was in a mess, he was hanging off, no one could see only us, we didnt want to shout as we didnt no if it would make him jump. Flagged the spanish police down who were driving past and pointed to him, what did they do? they drove on and ignored it.

Luckily he started screaming at the top of his lungs and people started noticing and eventually someone broke in to his room and got him off the ledge.

Really not nice to watch and I dont agree with it
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There was a story in the papers a few days ago about something very similar, except the bloke wasn't trying to kill himself, he was being "smart", unfortunately for him he lost his grip and died...
 
I sympathise and understand with those that think of these things and being "down" myself I'm glad I have the friends and family I have or I could be a lot worse off, it's amazing how a depressing feeling can make menial activities seem very pointless or hard to do, let alone the important things. It either then spirals out of controls if not that building up inside for years (6), sometimes they just keep up appearences around others as you can't really talk about it or put words into how you feel or why, sometimes you try and think that you are so, so much better off than people in third world countries( for examples sake) but realisation kicks in and you remember it's not about them, it's about you, number one.

Some people honestly cannot begin to understand why they are feeling like this, the life they've lead up to that point, great loss, *insert list of anything* or a chemical inbalance or a mix, heck it could be diet! I can take medication that will make me feel great for a few hours, some people have the opposite naturally in their body making them feel down.

Problem is some people are too short sighted or unable to grasp the concept of how complex we are and not everyone has a healthy mind.
Without actually experiencing it yourself, I can understand why others think this issue is a bit silly but I'm glad there's a lot here that see everything isn't so black and white.


02goswej said:
This thread makes me want to commit suicide.

*Goes to Boots and buys some black eye-liner, black nail polish and black hair dye*

Okay now I'm ready........

/Emo..ohwait /facepalm
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Not cool.



No1newts said:
Did once. I was falsely accused of a serious crime and when out on bail I almost did. Luckily I was a poor student at the time so there was nothing in the flat to wash down with the vodka. Everything was cleated up in a few days by the police who were amazingly helpful and suppportive but was a horrible expereince. Was such a horrible low in my life I'm glad that I never have and never will get in such astate again.
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Didn't involve a "picture" did it?
 
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Never considered it myself, but was a Samaritans volunteer for almost 3 years, so talked to plenty that have, including those in the process of doing it at the time :(

Definitely consider contacting them if you need to, you can even send a 100% anonymous email to [email protected] and they'll get back to you within 24 hours.
 
Yep, was depressed for a couple of years but came out of it, though I do have to odd moments here and there.

Not a nice phase to go through at all.
 
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