America does a thing (again) (and again)

come here, ill show u a condemnation you muppet.

bring it on

The bottom line is that there are many people out there with a disgusting notion of Islam that is totally out of place of a supposed developed nation like the US!

Except USA is a Christian nation, and as such is a current and historic "enemy" of Islam
 
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I think you'll find that it will take far more than some infantile attempt to belittle his beliefs to upset Vonhelmet tbh.

You could give it a go though, it'll be fun watching you crash and burn...:p

i wasnt trying to, whats the point? but obviously it was getting to him to reply like that.
 
Just to cover my back, I don't really mean all Americans, but there's a disproportionate number of them that's resulting in shocking incidents like this one.

edit: bloody hell guys calm down
 
Take it easy guys, I wanted a thread to lay into the Americans, not each other :p

The bottom line is that there are many people out there with a disgusting notion of Islam that is totally out of place of a supposed developed nation like the US!

The thing is that Islam has become a bogeyman to be feared to a completely irrational degree.

There's also the questionable logical leaps people make - rypt complains on the one hand that there was no condemnation from the leaders of Islam, but then states in the next breath that there is no centralised "church" in Islam. So who is supposed to be doing the condemning?
 
rypt next time u see a muslim ask him for a condemnation, keep doing this for every muslim you see. :D
 
I think it's about time to post this:

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There's also the questionable logical leaps people make - rypt complains on the one hand that there was no condemnation from the leaders of Islam, but then states in the next breath that there is no centralised "church" in Islam. So who is supposed to be doing the condemning?

I've said that that is one of the problems, the fact that there is no centralised church.
I would like to see ALL the major clerics and imams condemn the violence that is occurring in the name of Islam, both in the forms of terrorism here and also in the forms of the insurgency in Iraq & Afghanistan.

On the Afghanistan point I would in fact expect to have these leaders to come out in SUPPORT of the US & British troops there as we were attacked first, so our invasion was just retaliation.
 
On the Afghanistan point I would in fact expect to have these leaders to come out in SUPPORT of the US & British troops there as we were attacked first, so our invasion was just retaliation.

We were attacked by terrorists; it was not an act of war by Afghanistan, so it does not justify an invasion in response.
 
I've said that that is one of the problems, the fact that there is no centralised church.
I would like to see ALL the major clerics and imams condemn the violence that is occurring in the name of Islam, both in the forms of terrorism here and also in the forms of the insurgency in Iraq & Afghanistan.

On the Afghanistan point I would in fact expect to have these leaders to come out in SUPPORT of the US & British troops there as we were attacked first, so our invasion was just retaliation.

You was attacked, are you an american or british citizen?

Who attacked America? It was terrorists of mostly arab nationalities not the people of afghanistan.
 
I've said that that is one of the problems, the fact that there is no centralised church.
I would like to see ALL the major clerics and imams condemn the violence that is occurring in the name of Islam, both in the forms of terrorism here and also in the forms of the insurgency in Iraq & Afghanistan.

On the Afghanistan point I would in fact expect to have these leaders to come out in SUPPORT of the US & British troops there as we were attacked first, so our invasion was just retaliation.
I have more to add to that but my net cut me off for a min ...

Instead what we see are the disgraceful sights we got with respect to our service men returning iirc, and so on.
The major leaders need to issue fatwas on terrorism etc.

We were attacked by terrorists; it was not an act of war by Afghanistan, so it does not justify an invasion in response.

They were attacked by a group that was to all intents and purposes tied to the Afghan government at that point (the Taliban) ... as such attacking the country back was fair enough
 
Hahahahaha, you are funny.

Careful, he may threaten your mother next....

Why is it that the OP thinks it is wrong to bash all muslims because of the moronic acts of some (the furor regarding the mohammed cartoons, the more recent furor regarding the koran burning, the various acts of islamic terrorism, the many acts of violence against things non islamic in islamic nations, the killing of gays, the mother rape threats) yet it is perfectly acceptable to do the same to Americans because of the actions of some?
 
It was on a newspaper's front page on 9/10, and for some reason people didn't like it. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]

I'm not surprised. It should never have been published on the front page. It's a bloody insult. Maybe you should put yourself in the Americansd shoes not some manby panby lets suck up to and not insult them because they’re such goodies attitude. Some people need to face up to reality. They condemn terrorism with one hand and let it continue with the other. It's time to stop pussy footing around and keep telling them what we really think. Sod their so called sensibilities, they don’t have any.
 
Careful, he may threaten your mother next....

Why is it that the OP thinks it is wrong to bash all muslims because of the moronic acts of some (the furor regarding the mohammed cartoons, the more recent furor regarding the koran burning, the various acts of islamic terrorism, the many acts of violence against things non islamic in islamic nations, the killing of gays, the mother rape threats) yet it is perfectly acceptable to do the same to Americans because of the actions of some?

Just to cover my back, I don't really mean all Americans, but there's a disproportionate number of them that's resulting in shocking incidents like this one.

edit: bloody hell guys calm down

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