Nokia is the McDonald's of Phones

Nokia shafted people with the N97 thats whats started it all off. I still have one..well my second one. But thats whats started it all...it was their flagship..and it sunk!
 
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While you see mcdonalds everyware, they are growing....particaly in recent years.

as for nokia, yeah they are everyware but not in the smartphones, as that is most likey going to the likes of BB, andoird, and apple. than nokia, I think nokia do some hidden gems of smartphones but they take some finding, most are just a look a like...I ve not used a nokia smartphone imo becasue I m put off em due to what people say about them, and thier price.
 
Nokia will be fine as soon as they can get rid of Symbian. Meego has the weight of Intel development behind it and once they marry a proper built-for-touch OS with their quality hardware like the N8 with a proper capacitive screen they will be well on their way.

As long as they price it competitively with current gen Android handsets rather than trying to emulate Apples profit margins they should be on to a winner.
 
People are going to do what im doing, buying a different phone other than a Nokia due to the way they treated us with the N97.
I said i will vote with my feet on my upgrade so have many others.
And correct the symbiam software is was dated dated.
 
The N900 seems like a decent device, but once again they chose to go with a restive screen/stylus combo which, for me, is very off-putting. It is also rather bulky. I would never have considered to get a N900 over an Android powered HTC.

I'd just like to jump in here and say that I replaced the HTC Hero, with an N900. I then sold on my HTC Desire upgrade after that, because I still preferred my N900.

Android just annoys me, and I have no idea why. I am really hoping MeeGo is usable on mobile phones.
 
MeeGo is stranded for apps compared to Android and iPhone. Platforms that aren't developed for by third parties are as good as dead. Nokia made this mistake with Symbian already and this is pretty much last bell for them to wake up and not repeat the same mistake again.

The only thing, that still keeps Nokia alive in corporate world, is that massive number of fleet cars and spedition are wired for rSAP. Android don't support it. IPhone don't support it. But this is about to change. New cars, even those previously hard set on rSAP, like VAG cars, already started shipping with bluetooth systems supporting regular protocols this year, so within the next year or two Nokia will see massive drop in corporate orders, and won't even know what hit them. They must get used to the idea that the times when you could ship half finished, buggy and unstable OS in underpowered devices to the market and patch it up across few years is over. Ditching Symbian was good move. But going open source just to do the same feet dragging - like when it took Nokia the same amount of time to fix landscape keyboard in N900 as it took Android to move from v.1.5 to 2.2 is, in all seriousness, not the way to go about business anymore either.

That said... if Nokia is McDonalds of mobile world, that would make Motorola a Dial 4 Kebab. I honestly don't understand how they stay afloat. Until Android, you can not think of a single good, working, class leading mobile phone from Motorola, ever.
 
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I'd hardly agree with that. The N95 and N96 has terrible battery life, in fact most of the S60 series did because of the symbian operating system over the java range of handsets. ;)

firmware sorted that out for the n95. my battery life went from just under a day to just under 3, on average. Better than any phone ive had since, in fact.
 
MeeGo is stranded for apps compared to Android and iPhone. Platforms that aren't developed for by third parties are as good as dead

Maemo/Meego is very easy to develop for though, loads of regular linux apps were ported across for the n900 and they have all the basics covered that people expect (facebook, twitter, stocks, note-taking etc)

If they release a decent handset the apps will come, the n900 was very niche thanks to a beta level OS and resistive screen, and only sold a hundred thousand or so. The N9 with Meego looks to be a very attractive device, and if they can ship an N8 lookalike with Meego too it will sell in bucketloads.
 
Maemo/Meego is very easy to develop for though, loads of regular linux apps were ported across for the n900 and they have all the basics covered that people expect (facebook, twitter, stocks, note-taking etc)

I prefer developing for Maemo than either Android or iOS. Maemo has better frameworks and better tools.

The problem is that Espoo is a long way from the Silicon Valley. Homegrown operating systems are a lot more attractive to American developers.
 
Nokia have released some shockers recently.

I guess they make their money in normal business phones - our company only do non-smartphones and it's always Nokia (unless it's a blackberry for high level) so they still have a market out there.... not sure if it'll last though.
 
Since the n95 Nokia has become the McDonalds of phones meaning, it doesnt lead the pack anymore, it doesnt own the high end like it used to, it leads on price. Its a real pity, Nokia are capable but dont seem to want to chase the high end.
 
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firmware sorted that out for the n95. my battery life went from just under a day to just under 3, on average. Better than any phone ive had since, in fact.

depends on what firmware you're meaning though, I had mine at the latest t - mob one originally then for whatever reason they borked it by installing the 8gb firmware on my n95 classic so much i had to get a new n95 at their expense i then flashed it with the latest generic firmware and didn't notice too much of an increase in the battery life. Thought my n95 was better than the n96 though. A good thing with the n95 as well was the camera. Superb quality with the carl zeiss lens :cool:
 
Android is for people who are interested in phones a lot more than the average person. I dont know a single person who has an Android phone.

Brother (14) has lg, Sister (23) has bb, Dad (49) has nokia, Me (25) nokia, Fiancee (24) has bb (getting iPhone 4 next week), her 2 brothers have bb, their wives have bb, her mum and dad have samsung and nokia.

Now move onto my cousins. 3 of them have iPhone's, 1 has nokia and their dad's have iPhones.

Now move onto my friends. 6 of them have an iPhone, 3 of them have bb's.

I refuse to belive you've memorised exactly what mobile phone every single member of your friendship group and family have. I mean... seriously?
 
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I refuse to belive you've memorised exactly what mobile phone every single member of your friendship group and family have. I mean... seriously?

im sure you have memorised every car, everyone on this forum has, but you are a lot sadder than most
 
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