Tracing Mobile Phones - Anyone here work in telecomms?

daz · 28 Sep 2010 at 11:51

Wicksta said:
I've got an app on my HTC Desire which connects to Google Talk and you can send remote commands to the phone, one of them is 'where' and you get a Google map link sent back to you of both the GPS and the GSM location. Pretty useful really.

Link/name of app??!

Gaygle · 28 Sep 2010 at 12:03

PapaLazaru said:
Recently completed a fraud project within one of the large mobile telecomms companies. They can easily track and often do track locations of phones.

Some of the stuff they do to counter fraud is quite mindblowing to be honest.

More info?!

Will Gill said:
I can track all our blackberry users via our BES server, accurate to about 25-50metres, I haven't told our management we can do it but I love speaking to people I know are blagging a lie in/day off and smiling knowingly that they are lying to me

best one was a guy was in vegas and he was supposed to be in docklands!!

Awesome

, but is that....legal??

SiD the Turtle · 28 Sep 2010 at 12:05

I heard on the news yesterday about a guy on trial for murdering his ex. The key evidence they've got him on is that he says he was at home at the time of the murder, but the cell towers in the train station car park where the girl was last seen put him in the car park at the time of the murder.

OP- that's not you is it?

Wicksta · 28 Sep 2010 at 12:19

daz said:
Link/name of app??!

http://code.google.com/p/talkmyphone/

Bes said:
I work for a company that makes this kind of software to sell into networks, and yes we can track locations just using cell triangulation, and yes it is extremely accurate

I'm surprised you sell the software seperately, I'd have assumed it would be offered as an all in one black box solution including hardware?

Bes · 28 Sep 2010 at 12:25

Wicksta said:
http://code.google.com/p/talkmyphone/

I'm surprised you sell the software seperately, I'd have assumed it would be offered as an all in one black box solution including hardware?

Why does that surprise you? We do tend to sell them together, but it does not have to be done this way.

Will Gill · 28 Sep 2010 at 12:39

Gaygle said:
More info?!

Awesome , but is that....legal??

yeah the phones are our property and the users sign a contract permitting us to monitor them at all times, I don't disclose to them (or anyone else) we can track them but the contract permits me to do pretty much anything, can also send a new policy to allow me to set them to silent, ring the phone and auto answer after 1 second.

not done that yet but its tempting!

Myshra · 28 Sep 2010 at 12:43

I work for a telco and know it's easy but rest assured - people who have access to the tools in question have the highest security clearance in the company.

If you think this is bad though, the US are well ahead of us: http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029_3-6140191.html

Wicksta · 28 Sep 2010 at 12:51

Bes said:
Why does that surprise you? We do tend to sell them together, but it does not have to be done this way.

It surprises me because I've looked after two seperate GMLC platforms and I wouldn't consider a software only solution to be honest. It just surprises me that other telcos would go that way for something so basic yet fundamental. The last thing you'd want with your GMLCs down is a software provider blaming an operating system or the hardware - let them support the whole lot I say.

Gaygle · 28 Sep 2010 at 13:31

Will Gill said:
yeah the phones are our property and the users sign a contract permitting us to monitor them at all times, I don't disclose to them (or anyone else) we can track them but the contract permits me to do pretty much anything, can also send a new policy to allow me to set them to silent, ring the phone and auto answer after 1 second.

not done that yet but its tempting!

That is far too much power for one man to have.