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I said there, there is a minimum requirement for a given level of play.

There is the natural going up apm such as 60 av in diamond, as long as it is above 60 the rest is just spamming/useless clicks.
 
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Okay your point is it is very easy for terran to abuse toss early game, my point is forcefield the ramp and going up in for a terran is a suicide.

Wait so your point is your point exactly about "toss gets good quickly and terran vice versa"? I genuinely don't understand
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The push hits either before you have a sentry or at worst, when you have only one. Then it's a matter of chance. If you get a good ff in, you're safe. If you make the tiniest mistake you lose.

Either way, you're spending a tonne of gas on sentries and not teching to colossi or templars. And you're stuck in your base while the Terran has map control. Which means a mid game advantage.

And the new hellion backed variant of the push is pretty rude as the hellions are great against zealots and deal splash and they are fast.

So not only do you have to get the ff off, you have to get the positioning and timing absolutely perfect.

Wait so your point is your point exactly about "toss gets good quickly and terran vice versa"? I genuinely don't understand
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I believe it is easier for a Protoss player to switch to Terran and be decent quickly, than it is for a Terran player to switch to Protoss and be decent quickly.
 
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wHat? first 3 units a toss will have stalker zealot sentry, thats enough, then mass up your army, does map control matter in first 2 min of the game? no it doesn't you can still expand before terran/ same time as terran.

and not forcefielding your ramp or moving away your whole army just for a helion is not a tiny mistake, its a huge one.

Kar do you not think it was a big mistake on that player's behalf not to have full vision of his base? Do you not think it was a huge mistake to let that factory land, do you not thnink it was a huge mistake to move all his army to take care of helion, when just 1 stalker was enough?

Thats a lot of huge mistakes

"I believe it is easier for a Protoss player to switch to Terran and be decent quickly, than it is for a Terran player to switch to Protoss and be decent quickly." simply not true I can counter it with the same senseless elitism, it is easier for terran player to get good at toss than it is for toss to switch to terran and get quicly better. I don't belive it though, I think both races are easy.
 
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lol just watched Kar and Sadform replays, kar gets taken out in the begining always lol and when he goes protoss he gets probe rushed hahaha

Thats just bad luck mate :p
 
anybody want some late night games tonight? really feel like a bit of a marathon session after midnight :D
 
I'll be up for some late games tonight. My typical playtime is 11pm-2am these days.

Then up at 7 :( Thankfully though, the missus is well trained and has Croatian coffee ready in the mornings!

Indie, we need to get ourselves out of gold league :(
 
kar said:
I'll be up for some late games tonight. My typical playtime is 11pm-2am these days.

Then up at 7 :( Thankfully though, the missus is well trained and has Croatian coffee ready in the mornings!

Indie, we need to get ourselves out of gold league :(
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yes please, its embarassing ^^

You can blame my imbah terran skills though :p

going walking tongiht with a chap from work so wont be back till laaate! :D

Also wanna do some TvP after all this talk about it.
 
So..Indie, you know what to do LOL :D

Also give me a buzz when the party will get started, wouldn't mind taking part is some 4v4 madness and observing

uhh I've got a great idea, shall we do 7 FFA? that is going to be insane.
 
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